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| This disciplinary panel needs to be looked in to.
7 cases were reviewed from our game this week - More than any other club.
Of which, not a single charge was laid, nor even a warning issued, because they were all legal tackles.
4 of those cases were for tackles AROUND THE LEGS !!!
What would they prefer? Around the head? Maybe the throat?
Only 1 other player throughout the competition was even reviewed for this non-event - Scott Moore.
When will they stop listening to the whining of people like Tony Smith about a perfectly legal technique which has been a part of our game since it began.
The other 3 "incidents" were for a non-chickenwing, the clash of heads between Radford and Cross and a raised elbow which hit the middle of the chest.
Absolute buffoonery.
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| its all part of the rfl, its always going to be a joke untill we get rid of the ppl making the calls,
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| Quote ="Pie Eyed"This disciplinary panel needs to be looked in to.
7 cases were reviewed from our game this week - More than any other club.
Of which, not a single charge was laid, nor even a warning issued, because they were all legal tackles.
4 of those cases were for tackles AROUND THE LEGS !!!
What would they prefer? Around the head? Maybe the throat?
Only 1 other player throughout the competition was even reviewed for this non-event - Scott Moore.
When will they stop listening to the whining of people like Tony Smith about a perfectly legal technique which has been a part of our game since it began.
The other 3 "incidents" were for a non-chickenwing, the clash of heads between Radford and Cross and a raised elbow which hit the middle of the chest.
Absolute buffoonery.'"
Agree with that.
Maybe they were making a point to the rest of SL - "we've looked at lots these Wigan tackles and we don't think there's anything wrong with them, so there's no point banging on about it"?
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Agree with that.
Maybe they were making a point to the rest of SL - "we've looked at lots these Wigan tackles and we don't think there's anything wrong with them, so there's no point banging on about it"?'"
i dont think they are that clever
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Agree with that.
Maybe they were making a point to the rest of SL - "we've looked at lots these Wigan tackles and we don't think there's anything wrong with them, so there's no point banging on about it"?'"
Not convinced thats their intentions but its surely the message that's gone out there
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| Quote ="Pie Eyed"This disciplinary panel needs to be looked in to.
7 cases were reviewed from our game this week - More than any other club.
Of which, not a single charge was laid, nor even a warning issued, because they were all legal tackles.
4 of those cases were for tackles AROUND THE LEGS !!!
What would they prefer? Around the head? Maybe the throat?
Only 1 other player throughout the competition was even reviewed for this non-event - Scott Moore.
When will they stop listening to the whining of people like Tony Smith about a perfectly legal technique which has been a part of our game since it began.
The other 3 "incidents" were for a non-chickenwing, the clash of heads between Radford and Cross and a raised elbow which hit the middle of the chest.
Absolute buffoonery.'"
Nothing wrong with tackling the legs, its simply a matter of how you apply it and where. For example, if a player's legs are straight and an opposing player comes into the knees from the side on then that is dangerous whether you like it or not. You can just as easily put your shoulder into the thighs and establish the same aim of halting the ballplayer.
People think T Smith was over exaggerating but I'm not sure he was. You can bet a pound to a penny that if one of your playmakers took a drive in direct and hard, was halted around the upper body and then another defender came flying in awkwardly at the knee joint causing injury, you guys would be in uproar, and rightly so!
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Agree with that.
Maybe they were making a point to the rest of SL - "we've looked at lots these Wigan tackles and we don't think there's anything wrong with them, so there's no point banging on about it"?'"
Thats whats happened and something I've never thought of but I cant see them having done it deliberately just seems too, well clever to be honest.
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| Quote ="Istilldontbelieveit"Nothing wrong with tackling the legs, its simply a matter of how you apply it and where. For example, if a player's legs are straight and an opposing player comes into the knees from the side on then that is dangerous whether you like it or not. You can just as easily put your shoulder into the thighs and establish the same aim of halting the ballplayer.
People think T Smith was over exaggerating but I'm not sure he was. You can bet a pound to a penny that if one of your playmakers took a drive in direct and hard, was halted around the upper body and then another defender came flying in awkwardly at the knee joint causing injury, you guys would be in uproar, and rightly so!'"
T Smith had no point whatso ever and neither do you. Solomona was driving forward taking the tackler with him, Coley comes from behind and tackles a players legs, if rugby of all sports!!!!! the only reason Solonmona was injured was due to him being fat simple as. get over it.
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| Quote ="Istilldontbelieveit"Nothing wrong with tackling the legs, its simply a matter of how you apply it and where. For example, if a player's legs are straight and an opposing player comes into the knees from the side on then that is dangerous whether you like it or not. You can just as easily put your shoulder into the thighs and establish the same aim of halting the ballplayer.
People think T Smith was over exaggerating but I'm not sure he was. You can bet a pound to a penny that if one of your playmakers took a drive in direct and hard, was halted around the upper body and then another defender came flying in awkwardly at the knee joint causing injury, you guys would be in uproar, and rightly so!'"
The problem with Tony Smith's comments were that they were an overreaction to the tackle in question. There's nothing wrong with him voicing opinions about certain tackling techniques, he's not the only one and that's fine. The fact is the tackle on Solomona was viewed as entirely legal by pretty much everyone except for Smith who seemed to want to use it as an opportunity to have a moan about the tackling techniques he doesn't like. I can only assume he objects to the same sort of thing that a lot of other people in the game have objected to, but the tackle by Coley on Solomona was not an example of that no matter how much he might want to argue otherwise. It happens quite a few times during most games when one player goes high and the other low. He tackled a moving player around the legs, thigh first, while another was tackling high. It was just a textbook two man tackle which is why the comments he made were ridiculous.
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| I mentioned this on my post 'like father like son'. 12 Wigan players reported over the last two weeks smells like a vendetta.
I remember a referee telling me he was going to send a player off later that day. He did send the player off who was well known for a certain offence. This made me realise that official have a certain agenda before a match and the person who is reviewing Wigan's matches is looking (hopefully) for dangerous tackles.
It wouldn't surprise me if they used the video ref on Saturday to try to get someone sent off. Paranoid? You betcha.
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| Quote ="TonyM19"www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/harrigan-gives-storm-defence-green-light-on-the-shackle-tackle-20110730-1i5b5.html
Interesting.'"
Christ, don't tell Ron or there'll be floods in warrington!
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| How can a bite be more punishible than a punch/spear tackle
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| Quote ="MR FRISK"How can a bite be more punishible than a punch/spear tackle
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Imagine this then, you're on a night out with your bird and some geezer get's a good grip of one of her tits, you stand there filled with rage and out of nowhere you one arrow him in the face without even thinking about it. Crowds reaction = he deserved it, nice one mate
Scenario No2, as above, but just as he leaves go of said tit, your rage over powers you and you approach him and proceed to grab his arm and bite him on it! Crowds reaction = That guy who just bit the other guy is gonna get filled in any second now!
That's the difference. Biting in RL carries a lengthy ban and rightly so.
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| Quote ="TonyM19"www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/harrigan-gives-storm-defence-green-light-on-the-shackle-tackle-20110730-1i5b5.html
Interesting.'"
Different technique, that one sounds fine.
The one people are complaining about is when the 3rd man in attacks the side of the standing players knee.
Such tackles have put Emmitt out for the season, Solomona injured with it and Coley on Moa last week.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Different technique, that one sounds fine.
The one people are complaining about is when the 3rd man in attacks the side of the standing players knee.
Such tackles have put Emmitt out for the season, Solomona injured with it and Coley on Moa last week.'"
There were 2 people involved in Solomona's tackle were there not, and he was still moving when the contact occurred.
Legal, and utterly unremarkable in other words
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| Quote ="Guerrier"There were 2 people involved in Solomona's tackle where there not, and he was still moving when the contact occurred.
Legal, and utterly unremarkable in other words'"
If there were 2 people and he was still moving then his ample size will have probably caused it
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| Quote ="Gronk!"If there were 2 people and he was still moving then his ample size will have probably caused it
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| Tony Smith needs to sort out his own players tackling technique, sore loser, Wigan appear to be getting a lot of people jealous, MM has kept his opinions to himself under extreme pressure for nearly 2 seasons, well done to him.
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| I think the issue here is that the RFL, in typically amateurish fashion, havent explained fully what the rule is. I think they fully intended to mean when the player attacks the side of the knee, whether held or not this should be punished as it is dangerous, but hitting the front or back of the leg (not knee) should be fine eg. the one Lima got banned for against Leeds was not dangerous and I know as Ive had it done to myself many times and always got up straight away though I admit when your leg bends round it can be a little painful but its clumsiness and not agression and above all should not come with a ban.
What the RFL needs is clarity once they can clearly explain every rule then they will be able to have a consistent disciplinary and I think there needs to be a representative from every single team on the panel. I realise thats a lot of effort but it eliminates the unfairness as most of the time they have a link to Leeds and thats probably why Leeds players always get off with a lot worse than any Wigan or Saints player would.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"If there were 2 people and he was still moving then his ample size will have probably caused it
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Did you miss the bit where the RFL said the player was still moving and there was nothing wrong with the tackle.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Different technique, that one sounds fine.
The one people are complaining about is when the 3rd man in attacks the side of the standing players knee.
Such tackles have put Emmitt out for the season, Solomona injured with it and Coley on Moa last week.'"
There were two men in both the Emmitt and Solomona tackles
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| Quote ="hula89"I think the issue here is that the RFL, in typically amateurish fashion, havent explained fully what the rule is. I think they fully intended to mean when the player attacks the side of the knee, whether held or not this should be punished as it is dangerous, but hitting the front or back of the leg (not knee) should be fine eg. the one Lima got banned for against Leeds was not dangerous and I know as Ive had it done to myself many times and always got up straight away though I admit when your leg bends round it can be a little painful but its clumsiness and not agression and above all should not come with a ban.
What the RFL needs is clarity once they can clearly explain every rule then they will be able to have a consistent disciplinary and I think there needs to be a representative from every single team on the panel. I realise thats a lot of effort but it eliminates the unfairness as most of the time they have a link to Leeds and thats probably why Leeds players always get off with a lot worse than any Wigan or Saints player would.'"
That`s why Leeds players get away with a lot worse,,,,,, Are feckin stupid? On the other hand that`s why we have Redhall in our pockets and we bribe the refs too you know. In fact if we didn`t do that we might not have got into SL next year and would be 7th instead of 6th in the League. But then again you have had the same done to you as Lima did to the Leeds player. No doubt you are much tougher than the Leeds player who went off injured and several others who have missed the odd game cos there softcocks unlike you who is dead hard hey? Nob.
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| Look at last years CC Qfinal, Leeds got away with murder, they shouldnt have been in the final, they were a joke and the final was a sad sight. Look at both of last years play off games with Leeds, non stop cheating from Leeds. Wake up, Leeds just can't stop cheating
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| Quote ="Mash Butty"Look at last years CC Qfinal, Leeds got away with murder, they shouldnt have been in the final, they were a joke and the final was a sad sight. Look at both of last years play off games with Leeds, non stop cheating from Leeds. Wake up, Leeds just can't stop cheating'"
You are funny.
Now if you are a Wigan fan and can remember that far back you might want to look at the clubs previous record on cheating.
How many penalties did Coley give last season?
So what was the cheating Leeds were doing last year and don`t say McGuires attempt to bring down a player.
Next you will say Abletts clumsy challenge on Tomkins was all about him cheating.
Cheating is somewhat different to poor technique or late in the tackle.
Get a grip.
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