how do people think hes going, i know at the start of the season people where cursing him, but you just gotta luck at his previous record and he shows hes a great player, at the minute i think hes hitting some good form, but i can only see him getting better and better,his defence and under the high ball has come on well

Since that dreadfull game at Celtic he has done little wrong imo. He is a very different player now to the early season Amos Roberts.

At last he is starting to show the qualities that most people who have watched him in NRL games knew he had.

Comeing into to his own lately expect more this season till the end and to really start showing next year ala pat

Having a centre like glesson on the inside will only be good..Average players like Gardener have lived off centres with the skill to pass. Amos is better than him and with Glesson as his centre next season hes my leagues top scorer tip

You have got to remember he has come half way across the world to a different country , a different way of life it takes a hell of a long time to settle in. Not many players can come from Australia and slot in straight away

Andrew Johns didn't do too badly

Yeah, but he was off his box

Beaverrrr.


Anyway, Roberts looks to be finding his feet now and I wouldn't be surprised to see him somewhere near the top of the try scorers next season. Richards looks to be playing really well for you lot at the moment aswell.

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The issue here is that every player is different and I'm sure that many fans can recall that it took the likes of Any Platt and Terry O'Connor a good couple of seasons to settle in at Wigan from transfers that were much closer to home.

Rubbish. He is a 28 year old NRL professional. Not some wet behind the ears kid.

Players like him should hit the ground running not take the best part of a season to look like any other SL player.

He is a quota player and as such they should be on the ball from the first couple of games and become one of our best players.

Dave

People are blissfully unaware how left side dependent this team has been. So much so that it will take a while to adjust this mentality, and as such is one of the reasons for Gleeson's recruitment.

We were only going to see the benefits of Gleeson/Roberts with time, and I'm glad there are some signs of fruition at last.

Correct Dave.

Was speaking about this with my mate last night. Up until Hocks ban the team has been unbelievably dependant on that left hand side as showed by Ainscoughs 19 trys, Richards 16 trys and the likes of Carmont and Phelps chipping in with trys from that left hand side aswell.

If we then look at the right hand side before Hocks ban we had Roberts with about 5 trys, Gleeson with 2 and then the likes of Goulding and Pryce with possibly 2 trys between them.

Basically we were scoring 4 trys down the left for every one down the right side. Since the ban of Hock Roberts has scored in every game i think, Bailey had a couple at KR and Gleeson, Goulding and Pryce have all got on the scoresheet aswell. Luckily enough the left side has been going ok aswell but it's more of a 50/50 split now and thats great because we'd become too predictable.

I'm not saying we're better off without Hock because we cleary aren't but the players look to be learning to think for themselves and not just go into the mode of putting it out to Hock and hoping for the best.

We look alot more balanced.

Believe it or Not Dave I don't disagree too much with the above statement.

What I would say though is that for the last 1/2 dozen games despite what you say HE HAS been one of our Best players and totally justified his selection sine MM for me.

Possibly MOM for me last weekend at Bradford.

with Hock in the side when we throw the ball wide to the left 8/10 times the ball would go to Hock because he such a destructive runner. Opposition defences read the play with ease and put two or three players waiting for Hock to close the play down.

Now Hock is out of the side when we move the ball left it could go anywhere....and its working well cos both Carmont and Richards are seeing more ball.

Our left side has always been strong but at the moment its even stronger than it was before Hock got banned as its made the players have a bit of a think and change the way they play. Eventually opposition teams will start to read us a bit better.

I think its brilliant that both Gleeson and Roberts played so well on Sunday as we really need options going right as well as left.

So you believe that good centres and wingers should be able to gel effectively straight away then?

Careful before you answer this because I can recall another post in which you suggested the opposite and stressed the importance of allowing them time to do this.

So which is it?

we are a better team without Hock, heard a rumour that he was part of the problem at the club

Also DaveO whats your opinion on Pat Richards..he took a while to settle in as well.

The one that backs up his argument and whichever one he can use to rubbish Roberts & Riddell?

Am I Close?

Not to mention that overseas players should apparently be expected to play their best footy without so much as a second to adapt to a new climate, new preparations, new teammates, new instructions, loneliness with no family to support him etc etc.

But don't let any of that get in the way of the obsessive slating of Roberts and Riddell.

maybe if all overseas players where made to come over once our season has ended they would have more time to get used to their surroundings/weather/team etc, coming in Oct/Nov rather than the end of Dec begining of Jan would be better fro everoyne as a whole

Roberts family only came over about 4 months into the season.

First 4 months form- Average

Since Family has come over form- Very good

The guys mind looked elsewhere early on in the season and it's totally understandable. Since his family have moved over his form has improved hugely and he just looks alot more settled and confident.

same here.

I heard him, bailey and lockers had a bust up. Also heard in training he would turn up when he wanted and leave when he wanted.

I personally think the way we are playing without Hock highlights the fact he is a Prop and would be best used there for the balance of the team.

As for some of the rumours i have to take them with a pinch of salt he way have had a bust up but more often than not these are sorted quickly, but as for turning up and leaving when he wants, there are things the club could do to prevent this and i am certain they would.