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| Not up to you pal
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| I still say he's the right man for the job!
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Not up to you pal
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No its up to I.L. and if you read what he said quote (The position with Brian is exactly the same position as it's always been. As far as Wigan are concerned, we have a great respect for what he does) which is Noble as coach of Wigan
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| He has prevented relegation, nearly got to the GF final on two occasions and just maybe the youth development and the like is starting to deliver. If Wigan can play at the same level as the weekend for the rest of the season then maybe he does have a future at the club.
I would love to see a more convincing start to the season for once though.
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| I want Noble to stay, not just because we have beat Saints, I want him to stay for another year after this one, 2010 was supposed to be the year we are up there challenging, lets give him to opportunity to do this and not get rid of him that would mean we break cabbages by throwing them in a babys bath water with humpty dumpty!
I have said before, give Noble until the end of the season, if he gets us to a final then give him a new one year deal, if we win something then a 2 year deal.
The only coach I would want to replace him would be Brian Smith or Wayne Bennett or to a lesser extent Justin Morgan, Nathan Brown or John Kear.
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| Saturdays result has both positive and negative effects on Noble, we have shown how we can play so now fans expectations will have risen again. For me he needs the CC to keep the fans happy.
Whatever happens, the club is in a far better state then when he took over.
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| we need to give noble another year i am sure he will win us something if not this year then defo next and why should someone elts come in and get all the glory from a team noble has built and i think we owe him this courtesy for saving us from relegation which he did
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| absolutely amazing the change in attitudes after one result
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| Quote ="Catalancs"absolutely amazing the change in attitudes after one result'"
some of us have alway had faith in him
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"some of us have alway had faith in him'"
Correct. The wigan supporters bandwagon is huge!
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| Quote ="Catalancs"absolutely amazing the change in attitudes after one result'"
exactly!! some people on here are pathetic!! this is the main reason we're still stuck with noble IMO, one result and all the pressure dies away and everyone is happy with him again.....its like the hull home result or the harlequins away result all over again!!
I wish people would see the bigger picture, as it appears leneghan has done being non committal and (hopefully) not offering noble a new contract. Noble has steadied us but we will go no further under him as he is technically inadequate as a coach. Noble still needs to go despite the fact we beat saints....and for people to change their minds so quickly after one result is quite frankly pathetic.
IMO the only way Noble will save his job is to win the challenge cup or GF, the team is good enough but unfortunately I can't see him being good enough to do this and therefore I think he will be out at the end of the season and we can move forward!
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| Everything he says is true. The club is in better shape ten fold.
It is going to totally split fans if Noble is given a new deal. I hope IL has the stones to back that call, if he belives Noble can kick on from this.
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| Quote ="AJ"Everything he says is true. The club is in better shape ten fold.
It is going to totally split fans if Noble is given a new deal. I hope IL has the stones to back that call, if he belives Noble can kick on from this.'"
If i was leneghan I would make the equation very simple.........win us the CC or SL nobby or your out.....that way no one can say he hasn't had the chance and IMO nobby will fall at the final hurdle again and put himself out of the job because despite the team being good enough he is not a good enough coach to lead us to glory!
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| Iv never called for Noble to go but I have wondered at times if hes the right person but after that performance he proved that what he's been saying about all the attacking plays in training are true. We looked outstanding.
I think Noble is actually getting the potential out of OLoughlin, he looked like a real Loose Forward against Saints, Kicking the ball, passing, running. And it wasnt a one off, hes been very good in that way for a good few games now and improving each time.
I kind of laughed at what Phil Clarke said on the commentry, that Martin Gleeson has made a huge difference to the team, even Phil himself said one person cant make a team but since he's joined we look like a far more attacking team.
Best of all I think finally we do have a balanced team with no star "goto" player like Barrett, Im sure this must help in bringing everyone together.
If the Saints game was a sign of things to come then Noble deserves to stay.
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| Quote ="andyed-wiganrl" because despite the team being good enough he is not a good enough coach to lead us to glory!'"
Because he has never won anything before has he?
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| Quote ="andyed-wiganrl"exactly!! some people on here are pathetic!! this is the main reason we're still stuck with noble IMO, one result and all the pressure dies away and everyone is happy with him again.....its like the hull home result or the harlequins away result all over again!!
I wish people would see the bigger picture, as it appears leneghan has done being non committal and (hopefully) not offering noble a new contract. Noble has steadied us but we will go no further under him as he is technically inadequate as a coach. Noble still needs to go despite the fact we beat saints....and for people to change their minds so quickly after one result is quite frankly pathetic.
IMO the only way Noble will save his job is to win the challenge cup or GF, the team is good enough but unfortunately I can't see him being good enough to do this and therefore I think he will be out at the end of the season and we can move forward!'"
Whilst this is fine in principle, it's not really one result is it? It's a run of 3 good results but, more to the point, the turnaround in form. We are currently playing the best attacking rugby I have seen from a Wigan team in many seasons and, speaking personally, this is the main area I doubted Noble could take us forward. I don't agree with everything he does but surely he should be judged on the whole season's performances, given the way we are currently playing? As you say, if he takes us to a final or, even better, delivers some silverware....
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| Quote ="AJ"Because he has never won anything before has he?'"
because despite the team being good enough he is not a good enough coach to lead us to glory!
HE and US are key words there! IMO noble isnt good enough to take a team HE built (rather than Inherited) to glory!
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| Quote ="W!64N_ENTHUSI45T"Iv never called for Noble to go but I have wondered at times if hes the right person but after that performance he proved that what he's been saying about all the attacking plays in training are true. We looked outstanding.
I think Noble is actually getting the potential out of OLoughlin, he looked like a real Loose Forward against Saints, Kicking the ball, passing, running. And it wasnt a one off, hes been very good in that way for a good few games now and improving each time.
I kind of laughed at what Phil Clarke said on the commentry, that Martin Gleeson has made a huge difference to the team, even Phil himself said one person cant make a team but since he's joined we look like a far more attacking team.
Best of all I think finally we do have a balanced team with no star "goto" player like Barrett, Im sure this must help in bringing everyone together.
If the Saints game was a sign of things to come then Noble deserves to stay.'"
The difference Gleeson has made is he makes us dangerous down 2 sides of the field. We no longer simpily go to Carmont/Hock.
Lockers is benefitting from having a skillful centre on that side, and it means both our wingers have the chance of quality ball.
Phelps also has to take a helluva lot of credit - his joining the line offers us plenty extra options that we see teams like Leeds benefit from on countless occasions.
Noble has changed the style this year without a doubt and the addition of Gleeson to the side and a natural fullback on the side have seen many of the options and tactics becoming a lot more achievable.
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| Quote ="W!64N_ENTHUSI45T"Iv never called for Noble to go but I have wondered at times if hes the right person but after that performance he proved that what he's been saying about all the attacking plays in training are true. We looked outstanding.
I think Noble is actually getting the potential out of OLoughlin, he looked like a real Loose Forward against Saints, Kicking the ball, passing, running. And it wasnt a one off, hes been very good in that way for a good few games now and improving each time.
I kind of laughed at what Phil Clarke said on the commentry, that Martin Gleeson has made a huge difference to the team, even Phil himself said one person cant make a team but since he's joined we look like a far more attacking team.
Best of all I think finally we do have a balanced team with no star "goto" player like Barrett, Im sure this must help in bringing everyone together.
If the Saints game was a sign of things to come then Noble deserves to stay.'"
Spot on, excellent post.
IF we find some stability, there is no reason why we can't kick on and move up the table. The next two weeks are massive, if we get two wins from two this week then we may well have turned a corner, however I'm not getting carried away yet
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| Quote ="andyed-wiganrl"HE and US are key words there! IMO noble isnt good enough to take a team HE built (rather than Inherited) to glory!'"
[uIN YOUR OPINION[/u
This year is his team, we are still in the cup and the upturn in league form has come at a good time to make progress.
So clearly you cannot make your statement as if it is fact, when it is merely opinion.
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| Quote ="andyed-wiganrl"If i was leneghan I would make the equation very simple.........win us the CC or SL nobby or your out.....that way no one can say he hasn't had the chance and IMO nobby will fall at the final hurdle again and put himself out of the job because despite the team being good enough he is not a good enough coach to lead us to glory!'"
Not a good enough coach? Where do you get such utter nonsense from. So despite him being a proven trophy winning coach and one of the most sucsessful coaches in SL you still think he is not good enough? Ive had this argument loads of times. Brian Noble did not win things at Bradford by pure luck or by any other stupid theory. Just what exactly makes you think he is not a good enough coach?
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| Quote ="AJ"The difference Gleeson has made is he makes us dangerous down 2 sides of the field. We no longer simpily go to Carmont/Hock.
Lockers is benefitting from having a skillful centre on that side, and it means both our wingers have the chance of quality ball.
Phelps also has to take a helluva lot of credit - his joining the line offers us plenty extra options that we see teams like Leeds benefit from on countless occasions.
Noble has changed the style this year without a doubt and the addition of Gleeson to the side and a natural fullback on the side have seen many of the options and tactics becoming a lot more achievable.'"
Yep, exactly, I think if we do well this season and continue with this form then Phelps Smith and Gleeson deserve bonus' because they might end up being the ones who earn Noble a new contract. No doubt with the way these 3 have added something different has made a difference to the team as a whole.
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| Ahhhh the fickle wigan fans!! Never let you down. Yes you are all right it is in my opinion, but i beleive my opinion will be proven to be right when noble fails to lead us to a final again this season.
I wonder how many of you would be back on here calling for nobles head IF we lost to wakefield in the cup next week!! Sincerley hope we dont lose but it sure as hell would be interesting to see the response. The noble out threads would be well and truely resurrected!!
Step out of yourselfs and look how pathetic we are starting to look as 'blow with the wind' fans. each week, nobby out then nobby stay, phelps out...phelps stay. whos next?
We're very slowly turning into wire fans!
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| Quote ="AJ"[uIN YOUR OPINION[/u
This year is his team, we are still in the cup and the upturn in league form has come at a good time to make progress.
So clearly you cannot make your statement as if it is fact, when it is merely opinion.'"
I think the other point worth making re: the bold is that the so-called untouchables, Leeds and Saints, are now both losing matches and don't look anything like the sides they were cracked up to be. A good run now could really get us back into contention come September!
N.B. Yes, I fully realise we are a long way off a 'good run' yet, but if we can maintain the form we have shown over the last 3 weeks then it's certainly looking good.
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