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| Simple thread this, what do you think the team should be doing to contain Wakefield, who have already beaten us this season. Not a teams thread, but a tactics one
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| Quote ="Bovrick"Simple thread this, what do you think the team should be doing to contain Wakefield, who have already beaten us this season. Not a teams thread, but a tactics one
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Try and get to ball out to the centres alot cause I think our backs are our biggest strength.
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| Score more points than Wakey?
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| Get the forwards a new pair of bollox.
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| Quote ="Richards is superman!"Try and get to ball out to the centres alot cause I think our backs are our biggest strength.'"
What he said. Work to our strengths rather than changing our play because of our opponents. We are strongest in the backs and so look to move the ball out wide more evenly than we did at the Celtic game. We like attacking down which ever side Hock is on and need to move the ball out more to Gleeson and Roberts on the other side.
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| Give as much ball to Hock, Sam, Gleeson, Carmont, and Tommy and get in their faces when defending.
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| Is Drew playing again? IIRC he kinda destroyed us in the ruck area that match, meaning our markers have to be really alert, which makes me think we should tag Lockers/Hansen/Tomkins to him to make sure they never get on the front foot, because they seem to score through flukish plays and getting a role on.
I think we also need to score as much as possible in the first 25, especially pushing it wide on the 3rd-5th tackle, to make sure they dnt have much fight, if Richards is at FB he should be running to the opposite side of the ball on the last play in anticipation for bombs, if Phelps is at FB we should be whipping it right across Smith=>Tomkins=>Phelps=>Gleeson/Carmont as we usually face concentrated defences with clubs like Wakey, and moving it across as quickly as possible so they have no time to regroup, giving the threequarters more time.... thats all I can think right now other than the forwards breaking out into a run occasionally.
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| Agianst wakey I would say Marker play is important, as is closing brough down. If we shut down the ruck, and make sure brough is closed down then itl be reet
We need our pack to get on top, get coley running hard and fielden...well running, and then bring on Feka and we should be be at least making metres!
A massive factor is going to be territory, kick behind Blanch, as we did down that left side agianst Saints and make them come out of thier own half time and time agian. This will have two effects for me, silence the home crowd and make them work hard to get out of their half. They don't have the same capabilities to go the length of field that the likes of Leeds, Blanch is quick but I reckon Amos could hunt him down. Brough likewise.
Not too much to ask...surely
btw, I've forgoten what their pack is like...Moore who else?
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"Give as much ball to Hock, Sam, Gleeson, Carmont, and Tommy and get in their faces when defending.'"
I will go with that.
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| Defend in a line.
Use the forwards near their line. Our backs are not creative enough, so we need to batter them.
Simple as that, really. Nothing flash.
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| High tackles, forward passes, constant offsides, whinge to the ref, oh no, i forgot, that only works for Saints
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"High tackles, forward passes, constant offsides, whinge to the ref'"
apparently Justin Morgan has been working on that in practice
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| We MUST work at the marker and move forward as a line, not stopping after 3 yards.
Ainscough for me has to play as we need our best strike players on the flanks where we stand a better chance of hurting them. I would like to see us run with a deep line and when we have to tough it out run all day at whoever there hooker is Drew or Obst as they will kill us if we let them.
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| Quote ="Richards is superman!"Try and get to ball out to the centres alot cause I think our backs are our biggest strength.'"
Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Get the forwards a new pair of bollox.'"
what they said. roberts and ainscough need to come looking for work too.
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| Quote ="jonh"We MUST work at the marker and move forward as a line, not stopping after 3 yards.
Ainscough for me has to play as we need our best strike players on the flanks where we stand a better chance of hurting them. I would like to see us run with a deep line and when we have to tough it out run all day at whoever there hooker is Drew or Obst as they will kill us if we let them.'" well jonoh no wonder mr noble is coach think you better stick to watchin .your tactics wouldnt work at under 8s mate .your running at hooker is the only one you got right
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| Quote ="st ives"well jonoh no wonder mr noble is coach think you better stick to watchin .your tactics wouldnt work at under 8s mate .your running at hooker is the only one you got right'"
So you are happy with our defensive structure and the fact that due to non existant markers Drew won the game for them at the JJB. Interesting. What would you suggest?
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| Quote ="jonh"So you are happy with our defensive structure and the fact that due to non existant markers Drew won the game for them at the JJB. Interesting. What would you suggest?'" well not keep running in a line on defence ,up and slide realy push from your inside .also attack in a deep line is old school .play flat with loads of push .full back sniffin round the play ball pushin up on every run half back as well .attack getin back rowers on both sides runnin into there defensive line so 6 and 7 can put passes behind them to make scoring chances .thats mine maybe wrong pal
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| Quote ="st ives"well not keep running in a line on defence ,up and slide realy push from your inside .also attack in a deep line is old school .play flat with loads of push .full back sniffin round the play ball pushin up on every run half back as well .attack getin back rowers on both sides runnin into there defensive line so 6 and 7 can put passes behind them to make scoring chances .thats mine maybe wrong pal'"
Attack deeper is far from old school, its what most of the top teams to, It is still possible to play the flat ball game running from deep. Infact generally the only teams that play a flat line are the ones coached by ex-Bradford associated coahes.
Basically the rest is what we already do bt fail misserably to do it.
Regards the fullback "sniffin round the PTB" we sadly do not have a fullback with the positional sence to do this.
Sounds to me like you have just peddled out some generic tactics and not considered the raw material we have at our disposal or the strengths of the opposition where they hurt us earlier in the year. Maybe wrong though pall.
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| Quote ="Batesy"Agianst wakey I would say Marker play is important, as is closing brough down. If we shut down the ruck, and make sure brough is closed down then itl be reet
We need our pack to get on top, get coley running hard and fielden...well running, and then bring on Feka and we should be be at least making metres!
A massive factor is going to be territory, kick behind Blanch, as we did down that left side agianst Saints and make them come out of thier own half time and time agian. This will have two effects for me, silence the home crowd and make them work hard to get out of their half. They don't have the same capabilities to go the length of field that the likes of Leeds, Blanch is quick but I reckon Amos could hunt him down. Brough likewise.
Not too much to ask...surely
btw, I've forgoten what their pack is like...Moore who else?'"
Wilkes
Bibb
Pitts
Snitch
Sculthorpe
Moore
Winterstein.
Ollie Wilkes, some of you may laugh but it would not be wise
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"High tackles, forward passes, constant offsides, whinge to the ref, oh no, i forgot, that only works for Saints
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You must have a constant sour taste in your mouth being so bitter.
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"Give as much ball to Hock, Sam, Gleeson, Carmont, and Tommy and get in their faces when defending.'"
Spot on
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| Don't play up the middle because they will beat us easily.
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| They're very enthusiastic so you've got to match that to have a chance in the game.
Our front row isn't the best but then i wouldn't say their pack is the greatest either it just works a great deal harder then ours and all of them are prepared to do the dirty work.
Outside of the hardwork we have to try and get early ball to Gleeson and Carmont as both should have the edge on their opposite numbers.
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| even harder for you guys now as wakey have an home referee in Ben Thaler.
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| Take our chances when we get them. Simples.
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