You know I think its 110 years since we've started so badly a season at home. We hadn't even moved to Central Park then. Pretty depressing stat.

Thing is though we could have won most of our 4 home losses so far. Just missing the bit of class in final quarters of games methinks.

Not looked at the stats, but last night we were on about our losses so far this season. Our first three matches were lost by 6,8 and 6 points respectively, and our only heavy defeat was against Leeds.

I just hope that we don't get into this way of thinking that close enough is good enough.

I thought about this today also.

Anyone remember Frank endacott losing his job after just ten games? we'd only lost 3! How times have changed

Weren't you only 2nd in the table?

Quote ="Saint Simon"Weren't you only 2nd in the table? '" Not too sure mate. I know we'd been knocked out of the cup at the first hurdle though wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=156

Quote ="Saint Simon"Weren't you only 2nd in the table? '" Not too sure mate. I know we'd been knocked out of the cup at the first hurdle though wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=156

The leagues is so tight outside of the top 2 that anybody can beat anybody else on their day and it's proving that way.

If we'd been that bit more clinical in attack and had the odd bounce of the ball we could have come away with wins in every game bar the Leeds one so far.

Attitude has played it's part in all our defeats though tbh. If we turn up in the same mindset for the rest of our fixtures this season as we did last night we'll win at least 2/3 of them.

saying the same thing after the game on fri....woeful stat! those 'fortress JJB' banners have been well and truely binned for at least a year!!

As long as we continue to play like we did last night though i can live with it. We wont have lost more than we've won at the end of the season playing like that! Just need to rid the consistancy and keep playing that way. weve shown we can match saints and but for a couple of unlucky bounces of the ball we would and really should have won.

Quote ="Meyt N Prater Pie"Not too sure mate. I know we'd been knocked out of the cup at the first hurdle though wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=156'" That's like leeds sacking Bluey now!

Quote ="Meyt N Prater Pie"Not too sure mate. I know we'd been knocked out of the cup at the first hurdle though wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=156'" That's like leeds sacking Bluey now!

Quote ="Saint Simon"Weren't you only 2nd in the table? '" We were third.... www.rugby-league-world.com/2001/ ... upr10.html Same as when Stu Raper was sacked..... www.rugby-league-world.com/2003/ ... upr20.html and above Saints in both instances.

Quote ="Saint Simon"Weren't you only 2nd in the table? '" We were third.... www.rugby-league-world.com/2001/ ... upr10.html Same as when Stu Raper was sacked..... www.rugby-league-world.com/2003/ ... upr20.html and above Saints in both instances.

He deserves sacking after losing to bratfut!! what you doin heatherington?!!?! hahahaa

You have to laugh at uncle mo in his day....he didnt mess around did he!! haha.

Much prefer the way leneghan is running the club now but part of me wishes he had a bit of that mo mentality in him......if he did parker would not still be sat here now!!

Quote ="Bilko"We were third.... www.rugby-league-world.com/2001/ ... upr10.html Same as when Stu Raper was sacked..... www.rugby-league-world.com/2003/ ... upr20.html and above Saints in both instances. '" 2 very very good coaches gone there

Quote ="Bilko"We were third.... www.rugby-league-world.com/2001/ ... upr10.html Same as when Stu Raper was sacked..... www.rugby-league-world.com/2003/ ... upr20.html and above Saints in both instances. '" 2 very very good coaches gone there

both better than the current incumbent

Well thats half the reason we are in the position we are now. Too much coach turnover in recent years and coaches who did not deserve to be sacked. This help inflict awful salary cap management as well. I wonder who was to blame for all that.........

Hit the nail on the head stability is what we need look at the 2 top teams its all about building a side these days Nobby has put some structure in the Wigan club which we will get the benefits of in years to come. McCrae Did it at Saints and look at them now cant remember the name of the coach who did it at Leeds but again look at them now. We might change the coach at the end of the year and start to win things but it will all be done from the building blocks laid down by Noble.

Just as well the league counts for (virtually) nothing this season.

Make the top 8 and start the season from there.

Sad but true.

Funny thing is, I think you actually believe this.

Well, we'll keep plugging away for a top 2 place, knowing full well it counts for a hell of a lot.

OMG! A Pie Eater admiting the league has become more competitive since the dawn of the salary cap!

Be afraid.