fantastic debate about england world cup!

martin offiah is actually standing up for himself

Sky calling it DW Stadium already.

That statement by the RFL is pathetic, anything we didnt no already?

Boot an All gets worse week by week.

I loved the chat about Bradford when he said they have "3 of the hardest working wingers in the league in ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Halley and ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Tadulala and ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm" and just moved on without remebering the 3rd.

He hasn't got the foggiest whats going on!

I think what they mentioned about getting ex players to be around the GB team to help them be a lot more proffesional is a great idea they suggested Kris Radlinski, Andy Farrell.

Who would you have

Aren't sportsmen meant to be more professional as the years go by?

There appears to be a lack of coaching talent, facilities and general leadership, so the easy answer is bringing back ex players rather than long term planning and investment.

Rads for the backs and general professionalisim to the game.


Sculthorpe for the forwards and general passion towards playing in the National shirt.

Maybe also a coach to work around the halfbacks but i'm at a dead end on that one. The last greats we had were Edwards, Gregory and Schofield and for different reasons we couldn't have any of the 3.

If you've not seen it couple of clips. Offiah & Stevo on this England World Cup Review - www.skysports.com/video/clips/0, ... 09,00.html And an interview with Gleeson - link.brightcove.com/services/pla ... 8963276001 And Not exactly boots and All but an interview with Andy Farrell link.brightcove.com/services/pla ... 8831661001

If you've not seen it couple of clips. Offiah & Stevo on this England World Cup Review - www.skysports.com/video/clips/0, ... 09,00.html And an interview with Gleeson - link.brightcove.com/services/pla ... 8963276001 And Not exactly boots and All but an interview with Andy Farrell link.brightcove.com/services/pla ... 8831661001

From our topical weekly RL programme focusing on all the latest issues - there was, unsurprisingly, no mention of the alleged HMRC National Insurance fiddle.

Now, if Wigan had been involved, I wonder if it would have got a mention

Various whinges aside, Offiah's passion for the game regardless of his analyticall delivery is great to see. You could tell he was as frustrated as any fan with the way the World Cup had been such a fiasco and the lack of heart in the England team and the whitewashing in that RFL report was pathetic. He's spot on, the players should have more discipline and be told what to do on tour and taking ex-players as mentors is one way to achieving this. Then you won't have the likes of Senior with the free time to go shagging some local slapper and making the papers amongst other things...

I dont think they could make any comment on that one as at the moment its all speculation and they could find themselves in court.

Perhaps you are right, but the nature of this and the RFL's direct involvement warranted a mention (even a brief statement from the RFL of "can't comment at the moment"icon_wink.gif - Boots N All is supposedly an impartial RL programme providing viewers with a magazine-type show of current issues and this is an issue that is attracting a large degree of interest and could have massive ramifications for the sport/certain clubs.

Maybe they should have but would think more will be said over the coming weeks. As i have posted on the Warrington board if clubs are found guilty of this the surely it is a case of not in the spirit of the cap. And the clubs that have done this should get points deducted for the years they have done it i think we got 4 for that offense so say the have done it for 3 years it should be 12 points deducted this season plus a fine but we will see if the jelly's at the RFL can find a backbone.

Unfortunately SKY and the RL establishment are going to sweep it all under the carpet. Punishing Wigan for minor infractions (though I don't believe the deferral WAS a breach) is one thing.

But there's no way they are going to punish 10 clubs, it just isn't going to happen.

Only people who believe the SC is fair (is there anyone that really thinks this anyway, its supporters seem to me to be mainly cynical Saints fans and other Wigan haters?) and who think the RL is an impartial and courageous protector of the game (I doubt there's anyone that thinks this!) could expect the teams who have cheated the cap, not just the spirit of the cap, to be punished.

I noticed that too but they are offically wrong cos it changes names on the 1st Aug. its like a woman called mrs jones and marrying a man mr smith and the woman calling herself the fellas surname before they get wed its just the same instance.

Rubbish, he still goes on about players he used to play with all the time. I would be very surprised if he watches anything other than when he's working for sky.

Offiah is an embarassement to RL, he's the least articulate person I know of on TV, and his mumbling and stuttering on a Sunday night are just cringe worthy, IMO someone like Terry O'Connor or Paul Sculthorpe would be better ambassadors for or game by a mile.

Lol, he really is crap isn't he.

No, no, no, Barrie is passable, Terry is shocking.

If I was a TV exec I know who I'd choose

I just find Terry a bit monotonous and boring when he is on TV