Ian Lenagan and Mick Hogan are the guests on Radio Manchester Rugby League show - now.

Don't forget the footy show on Setanta at 10 p.m.

Please report back any interesting Rogues

Leneghan getting the munk on with Deardon etc having a pop at Wigan youth system..................

He's just put Jack and Trevor right regarding youth development at Wigan.

"I'm not apologising for having nine Wigan produced players in the first team, it's bloody good".

Listen on line

[urlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/bbc_radio_manchester/[/url

Trouble is with Deardon and Co they live in the past regarding Wigan..............

"Wigan fans need to realise that they don't have a devine right to win every game" is a favourite of theirs

So out of 376 SL players 44 are Wiganers, nice to know we are supplementing some of the underlings!!

What gives the poor perception about our youth system is we've produced/kept loads of forwards. (hock, o'loughlin, hansen, joel tomkins, prescott, o'carroll, mcilorum). Whilst in the backs we've got ? (well ainscough and Sam T if you want to say they've made it). We have produced backs but they've all, rightly or wrongly been released or moved to Union.

They've never liked us. Trevor is a thinly veiled Leyther, with all the baggage that entails, and, in talent terms, an ex free newspaper columnist who got lucky - with all the amateurishness that entails. Dearden is a Manc, who bends with whichever wind happens to be blowing. He appeared to lead the anti-Wigan charge in the Offiah era, when the 'popular' view was that Wigan being so powerful was ruining the game, without any apparent perception that it was down to the other clubs to catch up rather than down to Wigan to implode (the cost of which we've been paying every since).

These days their show is characterised by phone-calls from anti-Wigan morons, who churn out the same blinkered, outdated, prejudiced bullsh** from donkey's years ago, which Jack and Trevor either agree with or think is really funny.

I'd say ignore them, but somehow they've become the voice of RL on local BBC radio. Oh for the days of Malcolm Lord.

To be fair I do like Phil Kinsella. He appears far more knowlegable and neutral.

It was funny IL mentioning this message board indirectly with regard to the fans on here wanting to sign LMS from the Quins.

great call about phil kinsella. the guy knows more than hunt and dearden put together and is very articulate. i can see him doing well on tv.
he also works on a number of stations including radio manchester and radio leeds.

Too much "old school" RL "We like whippets and flat caps" for my liking.


Still, at least the occasional point worth listening to.

Ian should have started to discuss his big strawberry live on air, that would have shut them up.

trevor hunt is in that mould though. he's an amateur rugby league journalist at heart and while he does have a passion for the grassroots and barla level he is found desperately wanting when it comes to SL and international rugby

Quote ="Catalancs"great call about phil kinsella. the guy knows more than hunt and dearden put together and is very articulate. i can see him doing well on tv. he also works on a number of stations including radio manchester and radio leeds.'" Seems to be doing Quins away games as well for BBC London. Gets about a bit. For me I've nothing against Dearden or Trevor Hunt but you do get tired of the same voices every week. BBC Leeds at least freshen it up every week with a proper studio pundit for the phone in. Being a person who listens the match despite being there, I still don't get why they can't find a proper ex Wigan pundit. Kris Rads perhaps, heard him doing a game for BBC National Radio last year and he sounded good. I don't wanna hear Neil Turley during our commentaries. Biased as hell and played most of his career at a lower level. Generally though we get a good service from BBC Manchester. 2 Hour Thursday show now and (unless football interrupts) they'll normally prioritise with full commentary on Wigan ahead of any other side. Incidentally commentary on both Latics and Man City games on Sunday so best to find rugby league online Links: wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... page_id=55

Quote ="Catalancs"great call about phil kinsella. the guy knows more than hunt and dearden put together and is very articulate. i can see him doing well on tv. he also works on a number of stations including radio manchester and radio leeds.'" Seems to be doing Quins away games as well for BBC London. Gets about a bit. For me I've nothing against Dearden or Trevor Hunt but you do get tired of the same voices every week. BBC Leeds at least freshen it up every week with a proper studio pundit for the phone in. Being a person who listens the match despite being there, I still don't get why they can't find a proper ex Wigan pundit. Kris Rads perhaps, heard him doing a game for BBC National Radio last year and he sounded good. I don't wanna hear Neil Turley during our commentaries. Biased as hell and played most of his career at a lower level. Generally though we get a good service from BBC Manchester. 2 Hour Thursday show now and (unless football interrupts) they'll normally prioritise with full commentary on Wigan ahead of any other side. Incidentally commentary on both Latics and Man City games on Sunday so best to find rugby league online Links: wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... page_id=55

spreading the wealth

Could be. Not sure what the cockneys would make of him but BBC London have actually been putting a few Sunday games on FM down there (Sundays match v Hudds is on FM) so a good job being done by the BBC in a non RL area whoever the commentator is.

don't i know it


always check cherry&white, sit back, listen and enjoy

I bought an internet radio so I don't have to be sat on the computer. Genius technology!

.........or you could plug your laptop into the amplifier.........

heard about them. i dont mind, usually do my marking or ironing on sunday afternoons as everything is closed here.

What did he say about that?

They were talking about youth development and how it was going in London.

IL said that one of the last things he did as Quins chairman was to sign LMS on a 3 year deal, and that Wigan fans on a "website" would like him at Wigan.

He also said that LMS was the fastest man at Quins.

Noticed at the time he refers to it as "our message board" and "our website".

The show is iPlayer for those that missed it, [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p002f0vh/Rugby_League_Extra_19_03_2009/Rugby League Extra[/url

the lad youre thinking of is Ian Ramsdale who's from the North west and has a great relationship with Quins and football permitting has a 1 hour LONDON RL prog on BBC London every wednesday night at 9pm

Phil,
You did a god job last night trying to keep the show on track, but it did sound as though IL and yourself were getting a bit miffed at times.