I may get shot down here, I may not

1 Pat Richards
2 Amos Roberts
3 Phil Bailey
4 George Carmont
5 Sean Ainscough
6 Tim Smith
7 Tommy Leuluai
8 Eamon O'Carroll
9 Michael McIlorum
10 Stuart Fielden
11 Harrison Hansen
12 Joel Tomkins
13 Sean O'Loughlin

14 Gareth Hock
15 Paul Prescott
16 Feka
17 Sam Tomkins


No place for Riddell, Phelps, Daryl, Coley, Karl Pryce or Mathers. None of em deserve to play right now.

sounds good to me

Spot on imo.

Seems ok to me, the only issue is riddell who i think needs more game time but it's catch 22 with him at the min.

I'd go with Pryce instead of Roberts. Another non-performing, expensive import. Pryce wasn't great against Cas but was far from awful.

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Diasgree, I seem to be in the minority here but I thought Riddell went pretty well against Quins and with time he'll improve much more.

Richards
Roberts
Bailey
Carmont
Ainscough
Leuluai
Smith
Fielden
Riddell
O'Carroll
Hock
Tomkins
O'Loughlin

Feka
Hansen
Prescott
Tomkins

What on earth..

I agree Pryce should not play due to fitness but saying he does not deserve to play sounds a tad harsh.

He's done nothing wrong has he?

Carried the water like a pro Saturday.

When is he fit for playing, anyone know? If fit I'd shove him in at for Bailey.

Pryce played against Castleford and looked about 60% fit at the most.

It's all about opinions and 1 day, who knows, you may be right.



Seriously, what has he done that Pryce couldn't? He did set up a nice try at the JJB admittedly but he is a top line, expensive signing and he is simply not performing. FFS our other winger is a teenager just making his mark and he is blowing Roberts away! It should be the other way round, shouldn't it?

I'd perhaps swap Joel and Locky around. Also not too sure whether it's too early to give up on Riddell yet so I'd go with him. (Micky's discipline worries me and we have got enough badly disciplined players in the side as it is).

1 Richards
2 Roberts
3 Bailey
4 Carmont
5 Ainscough
6 S Tomkins
7 Smith
8 Prescott
9 Leuluai
10 Fielden
11 Hansen
12 O'Loughlin
13 J Tomkins

lets have some impact from the bench

14 Hock
15 O'Carroll
16 Feka
17 Riddell

Well I agree regarding Joel and Lockers but didnt bother swapping them, simply because it will never ever happen. As for riddell, he needs slinging in the reserves until hes fully fit. Weve got no time for unfit, fat slugs

So? At 60% he's fitter than both Riddell and Smith.

Never an impact player in a million years this mon

I'd have Riddell and Coley ahead of McIlorum and Prescott for now.

Mark Riddell will be a superb player once if he gets to speed and fitness with Super League. This won't be achieved by playing him in the reserves. Luckily for us, McIlorum has age on his side and will have plenty of opportunities should Riddell continue not to make progress.

When both fully fit, I'd easily have Prescott ahead of Coley but I'm not convinced that Prescott is fully fit yet. Give it a couple of weeks for Prescott to regain fitness and he'd take Coley's place for me.

That's why I said "some" impact on the bench.

I think Riddell deserves a place more than Smith does.

That's called "damning with faint praise", isn't it?

By what measure did Roberts not perform against Quins? It just seems to me like criticism for the sake of him being an Australian. He didn't get the good ball that Ainscough was given. Ainscough was given 3 opportunities and took them all brilliantly no question. Roberts on the other hand was given none bar the chance of a small half-break through a Bailey offload in the first half. Aside from that nothing, but he saved two tries, ran the ball in strongly when it came his way and won the game for us with a great intercept. He's a proven performer and should be a cert to play on the wing next week for me.

On a seperate note, isn't it great how O'Carroll has made such an impact this year that he's a definite in everyone's 17 right now. A vast improvement so far on last year and much more potential to come.

I'm not sure what your point is. Pryce doesn't play hooker or stand-off.

I freely admit an element of my criticism is because he is an import. We have far too many of them! Also, I'm basing my opinion on his entire contribution this season, not just against Quins.

TBH the WC changed how I feel about not just Wigan but the game over here as a whole and I posted as much at the time. For me, Riddell, Phelps, Smith and Roberts can go home now.

Sorry. The point I'm making is that being unfit is patently not a problem in other positions or else Riddell for one would never gat a start.

what would be the benefits of swapping oloughlin and j tompkins positions.people on this forum often say they would like to see them swap positions.why?