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| ^^ When you want to bugger off back to your own board, let us know.
Huddersfield are pygmies in RL. Always will be. Goodnight.
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| Quote ="FLYINGPROP"When you wanna take your Wigan tinted specs off and have a sensible conversation let us know.
Have a look at the league it does not lie.
I take on board that you have quality in your reserves but doesn't that tell you something when the 2nd rate aussies are keeping your young kids out!!!
make no wonder England/Great Britain never perform as they should do'"
I'll have a look at the end of season SL tables for the past 2 years to see how good Wild/Aspinwall/Robinson & Co were then!
Even Blind squirrells find Nuts now & Again!
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| Quote ="Jukesays"
Even Blind squirrells find Nuts now & Again!'"
Ouch! - Nice analogy though.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"People are getting fed-up not because of the defeats, but the manner in which we're losing or even getting the 2 points.
I'm with you in that if we had 17 lads playing for the shirt and giving it 100% the fans would at least see that and take some heart.
There are some [size=150deadwood players [/sizeat the club and hopefully for a good few 2009 will be their last in cherry and white.'"
Who would you say are the deadwood players at our club currently?
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| Quote ="wiganrlforever"Who would you say are the deadwood players at our club currently?'"
Mathers, Smith, Coley, Fielden is on borrowed time considering the wage he's on and i think bailey is average at best.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Mathers, Smith, Coley, Fielden is on borrowed time considering the wage he's on and i think bailey is average at best.'"
Noted but only 3 of them can actually get in the side at the moment
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| Quote ="wiganrlforever"Noted but only 3 of them can actually get in the side at the moment'"
Even more reason to get rid, wouldn't you say?
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| Quote ="wiganrlforever"Noted but only 3 of them can actually get in the side at the moment'"
Noted but 3 too many!
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| Quote ="wiganrlforever"Noted but only 3 of them can actually get in the side at the moment'"
Two too many.
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| Quote ="FLYINGPROP"When you wanna take your Wigan tinted specs off and have a sensible conversation let us know.
Have a look at the league it does not lie.
I take on board that you have quality in your reserves but doesn't that tell you something when the 2nd rate aussies are keeping your young kids out!!!
make no wonder England/Great Britain never perform as they should do'"
Please tell me you are joking right? After all the legions of young acadamy lads you produce just trips of the tounge! In the last 20 years name me 3 players (ill make it easy) who have come through your ranks and gone onto a GB shirt!
And you should be thankfull we recruit 2nd rate ausies or you may have to produce some players!
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| Quote ="FLYINGPROP"When you wanna take your Wigan tinted specs off and have a sensible conversation let us know.
Have a look at the league it does not lie.
I take on board that you have quality in your reserves but doesn't that tell you something when the 2nd rate aussies are keeping your young kids out!!!
make no wonder England/Great Britain never perform as they should do'"
I think the reason England/ GB never perform as well as they should is a little closer to home.......teams such as huddersfield not sufficiently investing in their own acadamies, and relying off other teams second rate acadamey cast offs to get them through ie/ robinson / aspinwall, wild, dodgy hodge etc!!
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| Quote ="andyed-wiganrl"icon_rolleyes.gif I think the reason England/ GB never perform as well as they should is a little closer to home.......teams such as huddersfield not sufficiently investing in their own acadamies, and relying off other teams second rate acadamey cast offs to get them through ie/ robinson / aspinwall, wild, dodgy hodge etc!!'"
It looks as though they need to raid some more.
[urlhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/results/results.php?id=96&z=superleague[/url
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It looks as though they need to raid some more.
[urlhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/results/results.php?id=96&z=superleague[/url'"
They can always go and raid someone elses club in a few years though Rogues!
Why spend your money on developing Juniors when you can pinch them from a club that produces Too Many!
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| Quote ="Jukesays"They can always go and raid someone elses club in a few years though Rogues!
Why spend your money on developing Juniors when you can pinch them from a club that produces Too Many!'"
And that is why there should be a rule that says any player who is from your own service area and comes through your own academy system should not be counted (or have a percentage dispensation) against the salary cap.
I'm sick, tired and peed off arguing about it.
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| What a thoroughly depressing thread - its sad to see that people have lost their enthusiasm for Wigan during the current plight. For some reason though I just can't relate to it, although I am willing to criticise the club, coach, players and tactics as much as the next fan, I always thought that supporting the club was in both good and bad times. Maybe we have all been spoiled in the past and have expectations a little too high considering how times / rules have changed. Admittedly there are things that I would change at the club, but I still feel the same about the rugby - I can't wait for the games to come around and despite numerous disappointments over the last couple of years, the passion is still there - the pain of defeat and inconsistent performances doesn't get any easier. But it won't stop me following a club that have given me so many great times in the past. Yes, it can be difficult to watch 5 drives then a kick and the forward pack being dominated when comparing it with the past, but other clubs / fans have been watching dull rugby for years and their core support always remained. At least we can have a bit of optimism in the quality of youth in the reserves / academy that will be emerging in the next couple of years - it may take a new coach to get us moving back in the right direction, but I look forward to it happening in the long term. It'll be all the sweeter having experienced the last 3 / 4 years.
Anyway there is my optimistic contribution - its game day again, the sun is shining and for once I can be reasonably confident of an away win.
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| Quote ="giwildgo"What a thoroughly depressing thread - its sad to see that people have lost their enthusiasm for Wigan during the current plight. For some reason though I just can't relate to it, although I am willing to criticise the club, coach, players and tactics as much as the next fan, I always thought that supporting the club was in both good and bad times. Maybe we have all been spoiled in the past and have expectations a little too high considering how times / rules have changed. Admittedly there are things that I would change at the club, but I still feel the same about the rugby - I can't wait for the games to come around and despite numerous disappointments over the last couple of years, the passion is still there - the pain of defeat and inconsistent performances doesn't get any easier. But it won't stop me following a club that have given me so many great times in the past. Yes, it can be difficult to watch 5 drives then a kick and the forward pack being dominated when comparing it with the past, but other clubs / fans have been watching dull rugby for years and their core support always remained. At least we can have a bit of optimism in the quality of youth in the reserves / academy that will be emerging in the next couple of years - it may take a new coach to get us moving back in the right direction, but I look forward to it happening in the long term. It'll be all the sweeter having experienced the last 3 / 4 years.
Anyway there is my optimistic contribution - its game day again, the sun is shining and for once I can be reasonably confident of an away win. icon_cool.gif'"
I think the last bit sums it up....reasonably confident at barrow
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| Quote ="Sharpy_4a"Please tell me you are joking right? After all the legions of young acadamy lads you produce just trips of the tounge! In the last 20 years name me 3 players (ill make it easy) who have come through your ranks and gone onto a GB shirt!
And you should be thankfull we recruit 2nd rate ausies or you may have to produce some players!'"
Players who have or PLAYERS WHO SHOULD HAVE?
Ryan Hudson
Eorl Crabtree
Paul Reilly
Andy Raleigh
Ian Thomas
Anthony Farrell
Jimmy Johnson
To name a few but they would never get a shot for GB as they don't play for Wigoon, Stains or dirty Leeds!!! and we all know what an that lot have made of it!!!
I rest my case and will bugger off back to my own board as requested
Enjoy argueing amongst yourselves
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| Quote ="FLYINGPROP"Paul Reilly
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| Quote ="FLYINGPROP"Players who have or PLAYERS WHO SHOULD HAVE?
Eorl Crabtree'"
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| Quote ="FLYINGPROP"Players who have or PLAYERS WHO SHOULD HAVE?
Ryan Hudson
Eorl Crabtree
Paul Reilly
Andy Raleigh
Ian Thomas
Anthony Farrell
Jimmy Johnson
To name a few but they would never get a shot for GB as they don't play for Wigoon, Stains or dirty Leeds!!! and we all know what an booty that lot have made of it!!!
I rest my case and will bugger off back to my own board as requested
Enjoy argueing amongst yourselves
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You are serious as well arnt you!
Ryan Hudson Drugy, should have got a lifetime ban, not as good as Newton, Cunnigham, or Roby. So he at least fourth in the list. And didnt he start at Castleford?
Crabtree.
I dont even need to justify why he wont play but he at least 5ht best prop who could be picked.
Andy Raleigh, are you serious, who are you leaving out to pick him?
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| Quote ="Sharpy_4a"You are serious as well arnt you!
Ryan Hudson Drugy, should have got a lifetime ban, not as good as Newton, Cunnigham, or Roby. So he at least fourth in the list. And didnt he start at Castleford?
Crabtree.
I dont even need to justify why he wont play but he at least 5ht best prop who could be picked.
Andy Raleigh, are you serious, who are you leaving out to pick him?'"
No Hudson started at Huddersfield and why ask for a response when its obvious you just gonna disagree.
You asked for players of Huddersfield who have played for GB and I gave you a list of players who should have played for GB/England
It's obvious fools like you lot won't agree unless he wears a cherry and white shirt.
Raleigh in and leave Hock or o'Loughlin out? you choose!!
Don't bother to reply cos unless i posted a 17 of purely Wigoon players ya won't be happy.
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| Quote ="FLYINGPROP"No Hudson started at Huddersfield and why ask for a response when its obvious you just gonna disagree.
You asked for players of Huddersfield who have played for GB and I gave you a list of players who should have played for GB/England
It's obvious fools like you lot won't agree unless he wears a cherry and white shirt.
Raleigh in and leave Hock or o'Loughlin out? you choose!!
Don't bother to reply cos unless i posted a 17 of purely Wigoon players ya won't be happy.'"
Come on mate. You mentioned Paul f*cking Reilly.
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| Quote ="Conroy"Come on mate. You mentioned Paul f*cking Reilly.'"
Sorry mate but Paul Reilly had a season where he was top or pushing for top (behind Wellens) fullback of the season.
Any other team and he would have got a shot with GB/England, you cannot comment cos you dont watch these players every week.
Raleigh is outstanding for us week in and week out and would say on current form is performing well above the likes of Hock and O'Loughlin but can guess who will be picked for England.
Crabtree is another who week in week out delivers for us, playing better than Burgess of Bradford so in my opinion should be picked before Burgess and get a shot with England.
It's about time we picked players on form and not which club they play for, cos picking players like Sinfield, Farrell and Sculthorpe at standoff for GB rather than someone who plays that position, from one of the so called lesser clubs has not got us very far in the past has it?
Like I say pick 1-17 of Wigoon players and you will be happy
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