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| Quote ="Grego"I fully expect Briscoe to be slated as he was born and raised in wigan...............
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But Briscoe's nose means he should never get anymore flack, the poor lad has enough to deal with as it is
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"If it does he'll never become a top class player being that mentally weak.
What he should be doing is showing Smith he made a mistake whilst training.'"
No, he should withdraw.
Professional RL in this country is a joke, the worst ref ever to hold a whistle is the refs boss, a meddler who bankrupted a once proud club runs the game, and a fu*king Aussie gets players to sign for him with the promise of an international shirt regardless of form.
The most pathetic part is, when we beat France, Smith will use is as justification to select the same team v Australia. Who by the way will beat us by 40 points, easy.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"England team announced
Wednesday 21st October 09
The England team that will play France in the opening fixture of the 2009 Gillette Four Nations at Keepmoat Stadium, Doncaster, on Friday night will be;
1 Shaun Briscoe (Hull KR)
2 Tom Briscoe (Hull FC)
3 Lee Smith (Leeds Rhinos)
4 Michael Shenton (Castleford Tigers)
5 Ryan Hall (Leeds Rhinos)
6 Danny MCGuire (Leeds Rhinos)
7 Richard Myler (WARRINGTON)
8 Jamie Peacock (Leeds Rhinos, capt )
9 Scott Moore (Huddersfield Giants)
10 Adrian Morley (Warrington Wolves)
11 Gareth Ellis (Wests Tigers)
12 Sam Burgess (Bradford Bulls)
13 Kevin Sinfield (Leeds Rhinos)
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14 James Graham (St Helens)
15 James Roby (St Helens)
16 Ben Westwood (Warrington Wolves)
17 Kyle Eastmond (St Helens)
Sam Tomkins must be scratching his head
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Typo corrected for the real reason Sam isn't playing.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Typo corrected for the real reason Sam isn't playing.'"
You dont say Bring on the big frogs
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Sorry, but little Kyle in the centres will get slaughtered.'"
Well, according to at least one Saints player, 'little Kyle' may be challenged in height but he is all muscle. Apparently it is like hitting a rock when tackling him.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Well, according to at least one Saints player, 'little Kyle' may be challenged in height but he is all muscle. Apparently it is like hitting a rock when tackling him.'"
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Well, according to at least one Saints player, 'little Kyle' may be challenged in height but he is all muscle. Apparently it is like hitting a rock when tackling him.'"
That is loaded with innuendo
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Well, according to at least one Saints player, 'little Kyle' may be challenged in height but he is all muscle. Apparently it is like hitting a rock when tackling him.'"
One of the problems i have with Eastmond and it's something that has been happening for too long, is that when he does take a big hit, he is looking for the trainer straight away.
It happened in three academy / reserve games I saw him in and in both the elimination semi v Wigan and the Grand final v Leeds.
He needs to show a bit of the Shaun Edwards "don't let them see you're hurt" mentality.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Well, according to at least one Saints player, 'little Kyle' may be challenged in height but he is all muscle. Apparently it is like hitting a rock when tackling him.'"
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| Quote ="AJ"No, he should withdraw.'"
That's a very poor attitude, if not a major dummy spit, and I hope he doesn't have the same thoughts. It's that attitude that means the International game is a joke.
I'm a touch surprised really, didn't you go over last year? Whilst I understand you were disappointed at the shambles (and rightly so), most of the players that went haven't been picked this time (possibly all the worst performers) and who really thought we'd get further than the semi anyway?
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| Quote ="AJ"No, he should withdraw.'"
Then he'd be just as bad as Sean Long. Sam is no quitter.
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| Quote ="AJ"No, he should withdraw.
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No he shouldn't.
What he should do is what he did when he was rested and put on the bench for the reserves.
Give it everything he has in training, moan like hell to Smith and the coaching staff to get a game, and then deliver when he gets on to the field.
That's the best way for him to impress (again)
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| Clearly performance counts for nothing with Smith as the Myler selection proves. Sam playing well in training will count for nothing as Smith has a pre determined agenda to pick Myler.
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| Quote ="AJ":2ihaph4zClearly performance counts for nothing with Smith as the Myler selection proves. Sam playing well in training will count for nothing as Smith has a pre determined agenda to pick Myler.'" and therefore it is Myler versus Eastmond for the scrum half position. IMO i'd still put Eastmond in ahead of Myler but that could be why he's in ahead of Tomkins at least.
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| Quote ="inside_man"it could just be that Smith see's Sam as purely a stand off [which i don't agree with and therefore it is Myler versus Eastmond for the scrum half position. IMO i'd still put Eastmond in ahead of Myler but that could be why he's in ahead of Tomkins at least.'"
I wouldn't at this stage. Eastmond hasn't played at 7 since the CC semi iirc.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"I wouldn't at this stage. Eastmond hasn't played at 7 since the CC semi iirc.'"
No but at least he's played! He was at centre because Long was fit, and did well whilst he was there!
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| Quote ="inside_man"it could just be that Smith see's Sam as purely a stand off [which i don't agree with and therefore it is Myler versus Eastmond for the scrum half position. IMO i'd still put Eastmond in ahead of Myler but that could be why he's in ahead of Tomkins at least.'"
Its irrelevant, Smith said he selects on form, not one game etc, what form can Myler have, he hasnt played for 3 months.
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| Quote ="AJ"Its irrelevant, Smith said he selects on form, not one game etc, what form can Myler have, he hasnt played for 3 months.'"
Maybe, just maybe Smith truly believes that Myler is the best scrum half we have.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Maybe, just maybe Smith truly believes that Myler is the best scrum half Warrington have.'"
Typo etc.......
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| the only logic i can see for picking myler over tomkins is one played well in a half decent squad and the other played well in a squad out of its depth in SL.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"the only logic i can see for picking myler over tomkins is one played well in a half decent squad and the other played well in a squad out of its depth in SL.'"
Doesn't make sense really... So he's picking someone who shines in a team of crap players other than someone who shines in a team of half decent players? Surely on that basis tomkins is still the one to pick?
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"Doesn't make sense really... So he's picking someone who shines in a team of crap players other than someone who shines in a team of half decent players? Surely on that basis tomkins is still the one to pick?'"
And if you based it on Wire_Yeds thinking, why didn't Smith pick Ratchford who has outperformed Myler at in the same squad?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And if you based it on Wire_Yeds thinking, why didn't Smith pick Ratchford who has outperformed Myler at in the same squad?'"
Exactly. Despite all these excuses warrington fans are coming up with it's obvious myler is only in the squad because he signed for warrington. Put it this way if he signed for Wigan would he be anywhere the squad let alone the 17? It's embarrassing for the sport.
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"Exactly. Despite all these excuses warrington fans are coming up with it's obvious myler is only in the squad because he signed for warrington. Put it this way if he signed for Wigan would he be anywhere the squad let alone the 17? It's embarrassing for the sport.'"
Not making excuses, i'd rather have tomkins in tbh. The logic i used was if you can play well with a poop team around you then you should be amazing with a good team around you.
For the france game im not too worried anyway but against the oz i'd rather have Sam he's a fiery little sod who won't be intimidated by crims
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"Not making excuses, i'd rather have tomkins in tbh. The logic i used was if you can play well with a poop team around you then you should be amazing with a good team around you.For the france game im not too worried anyway but against the oz i'd rather have Sam he's a fiery little sod who won't be intimidated by crims'"
And how would that sit with regards to the Wales game where he was also crap?
Not only that, as has already been said, where does that leave Ratchford who consistently outplayed Myler in the same crap team?
At least you realise he shouldn't have been picked in preference to Sam. If only a certain other 'Wire' had as much honesty about him, eh?
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