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| Last night brought back memory's of us in the 90s great game great crowd and when they played Tina Turner at the end it brought a tear to my eyes
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| We was playing some good rugby, but I think what was more obvious was that we had a solid game plan and the players stuck to it all through the game.
I bet Deacon feels like he got hit by about 10 busses this morning. Every time we play Bradford Nobby seems to know that if you run at Deacon it will cause big problems, it's happened over the past and it happened alot last night, Gaz Hock was outstanding in doing this.
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| I said after the game to my mate that Nobles 'simple' gameplan could be very effective aslong as you have a couple of flair players in your team that can produce bits of magic.
I think in S Tomkins we have a lad capable of doing that whilst running a game. He looks to have everything to his game. We still played a pretty safety first game last night but the difference to previous weeks was that everytime we went wide to either Tomkins, Leuluai or Hock we had massive threat.
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| Is it just me or was Carmont playing a Stand Off-like role at some points last night?
He seemed to be all over the pitch, and he was involved in that old fashioned run around early on and regularly alongside Bailey on the other side of the pitch.
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| Quote ="W!64N_ENTHUSI45T"Is it just me or was Carmont playing a Stand Off-like role at some points last night?
He seemed to be all over the pitch, and he was involved in that old fashioned run around early on and regularly alongside Bailey on the other side of the pitch.'"
He was superb last night Carmont. To me he looks to be trying to take more on his shoulders by getting himself involved.
In terms of value for money Carmonts got to be one of if not the best signing we've made in superlague.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"He was superb last night Carmont. To me he looks to be trying to take more on his shoulders by getting himself involved.
In terms of value for money Carmonts got to be one of if not the best signing we've made in superlague.'"
Definately. I thought, in a great team effort, he really stood out and looked class. Also I thought he looked very young and energetic for someone whos 30, I know he only started playing late but I think he might end up playing a good few years still yet (hopefully at Wigan)
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| We held on to the ball well and were a lot more disciplined which is good to see.
We played fast coherent rugby league and looked a lot more organised in attack and defense. I also noticed a lot of communication amongst the squad as well which is good to see.
Much better Wigan now we have to try to remain consistant week in week out.
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| It's been a long while since we've seen that much quality for the whole 80. I thought Carmont was outstanding as was Sam Tomkins. Phil Bailey was on fire in defence, his tackle count must have been extremely high.
Great game!
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| to be honest , im struggling to find something to really complain about after that performance
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| Quote ="wiganstu"to be honest , im struggling to find something to really complain about after that performance'"
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| Quote ="wiganstu"to be honest , im struggling to find something to really complain about after that performance'"
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| If we keep this up will will be the "New Entertainers" ....hehehehe
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| Quote ="wiganstu"to be honest , im struggling to find something to really complain about after that performance'"
Paul Prescott not being included.
There is always something to complain about!
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Everyone around me was commenting on the quality of Rugby played.
Very fast thinking and passing with few dropped.
The quality has improved as has the team. Also it isn't freezing cold anymore.Already looking forward to next week.'"
Dont speak to soon, forecast bad.
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| No idea where that performance came from. The lack of quality from Bardford helped, but we haven't seen attacking rugby of that quality in years, it was a million times better than what we saw vs Quins.
Piggy's distribution, and the fact that we are so strong down the left hand side meant we were able to run over Bradford last night.
If we play that like every week, I'd be happy even if we lost, though that said, if we [ido[/i play like that every week we won't lose many.
Attacking rugby; love it!
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| To be fair, we have seen glimpses of a more expansive style of play in the past 3 matches, but only in very short spells.
Last night was the first time we combined that with an aggressive defence and applied it throughout the game.
Nobby said in post match that we stuck to the game plan last night which seems to indicate that this is how he has been coaching them to play - and not in fact the one out 5 drives and a poor kick we've been seeing.
Key factors last night:
1) Dummy runners & support - In the past 5 years, I have never seen wigan play with so much off the ball support.
2) attitude: Aggressive and positive from start to finish.
3) Defence: Moved up much quicker, agressive and no obvious weak spots out wide - unlike the first 3 matches.
4) Kicking Game: Far better kicking game, Pat put in some good long kicks, Piggy some nice kicks for Ainscough to chase and Sam, all kicked well. First time in a very long time.
5) Pace - we finally seem to have pace all over the team and can break from deep. Amos is fast and runs in hard - no going sideways from him, he always runs straight and tries to break teh tackle.
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| Quote ="Big Steve"To be fair, we have seen glimpses of a more expansive style of play in the past 3 matches, but only in very short spells.
Last night was the first time we combined that with an aggressive defence and applied it throughout the game.
Nobby said in post match that we stuck to the game plan last night which seems to indicate that this is how he has been coaching them to play - and not in fact the one out 5 drives and a poor kick we've been seeing.
Key factors last night:
1) Dummy runners & support - In the past 5 years, I have never seen wigan play with so much off the ball support.
2) attitude: Aggressive and positive from start to finish.
3) Defence: Moved up much quicker, agressive and no obvious weak spots out wide - unlike the first 3 matches.
4) Kicking Game: Far better kicking game, Pat put in some good long kicks, Piggy some nice kicks for Ainscough to chase and Sam, all kicked well. First time in a very long time.
5) Pace - we finally seem to have pace all over the team and can break from deep. Amos is fast and runs in hard - no going sideways from him, he always runs straight and tries to break teh tackle.'"
Spot on!
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| Good performance and nice to see.
I only hope it is not another false dawn, there have been occasional games in the last couple of season where the team has suddenly clicked and played a great one off game - the real challange will be performaing to that level week in week out - something the team have not been able to do previously.
They can do it....they just have to repeat it.
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| After bashing Riddell after the first few games I thought when he was on the field he was awesome.
Now we finally have a balance of creative players, hard tacklers and strong runners.
I also think Tommy deserves a mention, he was top quality tonight...
It's always a good night when no one has to mention a certain Trent Barrett!
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| Ever since my little girl started school in September, I have had stick from the lollipop man. What happened to your lot etc!!
This morning I got there and to my amazement he said, "What the blo0dy hell happened to your lot on Saturday," I was gobsmacked and then he went on to say they were absolutely amazing, I don't think I have ever enjoyed a match as much in absolute years.
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| Best performance in the noble era.The performance was far better than the result i now want to see this on a regular basis
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| Quote ="Panda Antics"No idea where that performance came from'"
Im certain it came from having a proper 6 & 9 in place and the players sticking to the gameplan.
Dropping a "bad egg" may also have helped some of our more senior players realise they need to shape up, or they might be the next player to be dropped.
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| Quote ="AJ"Im certain it came from having a proper 6 & 9 in place and the players sticking to the gameplan.
Dropping a "bad egg" may also have helped some of our more senior players realise they need to shape up, or they might be the next player to be dropped.'"
It's interesting how one performance of that sort can change your entire outlook. In recent seasons, I've regarded trips to Leeds with extreme nervousness, having always anticipated a good hiding (despite the fact we've done pretty well there with relatively underperforming sides). But this week I'm much keener. Not because I expect us to win, but because I'm eager to see signs that we've really turned a corner and didn't just play well in a one-off against an unusually crap Bradford outfit. I think I'd go as far as to say if we play like that again - and lose, I'll still be happy (though obviously I'd rather we win).
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Not because I expect us to win, but because I'm eager to see signs that we've really turned a corner and didn't just play well in a one-off against an unusually crap Bradford outfit. I think I'd go as far as to say if we play like that again - and lose, I'll still be happy (though obviously I'd rather we win).'"
Exactly, if we carry on the way we went last week, regardless of the result, I will be more optimistic now than anytime I can remember in the last few seasons.
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| Quote ="AJ"Exactly, if we carry on the way we went last week, regardless of the result, I will be more optimistic now than anytime I can remember in the last few seasons.'"
This is what I've said in the past re Noble's position. For 2 1/2 years we've played some pretty dour rugby that have [imostly[/i been 5 drives and a kick (or a kick on the 4th for inventiveness). This is the reason I have my concerns about him as a coach. However, in the past couple of games we've given the ball some width and, especially last Friday, we've seen the benefit.
If Wigan play good rugby and lose the fans will support them; if they don't show the effort and pride and lose then they'll be booed (and, IMO, rightly so).
Your point, Andy, re a proper 6 and 9 is bob on; Sam's eagerness and brain, coupled with decent distribution and guiding the pack around from Riddell has given the side purpose. I hope for proper rugby to be played, with Noble or without.
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