When both line ups were announced Hudds were put under the spotlight and were expected to win. Having lost, this is simply the tried and trusted smokescreen technique as perfected by the coaching genius that is Richard Agar.

Another club gets beat then joins in the criticism. Throw enough mud and some will stick and, at the same time, no-one will look into your own failings.

Win or lose I can't see Tony Smith participating.

Well, when Wilkin complained, Lima got a ban, right? That would make him right IMO.
Maybe you're right about Robinson

Or maybe he was really hurt by a lot of the tackles.

Anyway, I'll leave it there because I don't want to get into a conversation about your actual tactics. That's not what I was complaining about, I don't have a problem with them. It was more to do with the attitudes of the posters here in that it's always 'They can't handle us winning, they're just moaning. The whole world hates us' milarky.

for some strange reason after reading this im wondering if we watch basketball not rugby, C Ronaldo will be playing rugby next if it gets any softer, how luke robbinson can come out with that rubbish is beyond me, farrell and 1 other cant remember at the mo had bandages round there heads after 20mins, hoffman was limping most of the game and we are the dirty ones,

I'm not sure how paranoid we're actually being, when the likes of Robinson, Kear, Agar and Potter have specifically complained about Wigan, when Hetherington has made veiled comments about Wigan, and when it was Wigan who Whinger Wilkin went and told tales about.

Maybe the whole world doesn't hate us, but all the ones who are whining to the press clearly do. Or, as the self-appointed voice of reason, do you dispute that as well?

I don't think there's any 'clearly' about it. Yes, MAYBE they do hate you. Or maybe they really have a problem with the way you play. The fact that in every single case, you assume it's because they hate you, then that, to me, is being over paranoid.

If ALL these incidents are happening EVERY game how come they are NOT being picked up by
a) The match Referees
b) The video review panel

This is, in all probability a stupid question

But I've always wondered about your sig, the part about you having eight in a row and us having four?

C'mon...it's not THAT difficult to work out.

My first thought was challenge cups, but we didn't win four in a row... Unless he just means you won eight without us winning one, and now we've won four without you winning one? Thought I'd ask instead of just assuming though xD

Recent visits to a certain stadium in Manchester?

Oh, okay. But that would be why I didn't work it out... We have 5 in a row xD

Ok, ok....losses.

You lost at OT 8 times in a row?

So what you are saying crunchie is that they are all making it up just because they are jealous of wigan.Open your eyes you fool!

So what you are saying crunchie is that they are all making it up just because they are jealous of wigan.Open your eyes you fool!

How ironic that you are commenting on a thread regarding poor tackling techniques / injuries to players whilst giving yourself the username of one of the most recognised cheapshot merchants in the recent history of the game. Soft git who picked on wingers / centres but hid when the big boys were roughing it up.

Ouch that tackle really hurt.

Right lets change the rules.

A lot of complaints that Moore recieved a ban, no chance that a Saint would be a sinner!

I think trying to gain an advantage over them would be more accurate (that certainly applies to the Hethertingtons and their pet, Richard Agar). And as for Robinson and Wilkin - well, we know what kind of people they are, so what does it matter?

Not rocket science when you think about it, is it?

And note ... I'm not so enraged by your facile comment that I have to post my response twice.

I havent watched the tackle back since I knew that he did something wrong, so I can't comment on that one really xD

Had a few of the main points clarified today. The main thing that may effect Wigan is

"Attacking the standing legs of tackled players"

Quite often a player is held up in a 2 man tackle and then a third comes into tackle the lower legs of the tackled player, bringing him to ground. My understanding is that this will be a penalty (and, presumably, a sin bin). Any third man coming into the tackle must tackle above the knees. It's a fairly good source, but we'll see tonight. If it is true, you'd hope that the players have had time to adapt.

Prepare for Eddie and Stevo to simultaneously ejaculate if it happens