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| Quote Jimmy Birts Lives On wrote: What's the point asking the question if, when you expose one of the pi$$ taking leaches, you do nothing about it?
Exactly. I would love an explination from IL over why he is still at the club.'"
Whether it is just the way he is or not, i dont know but Willow gives the impression he just doesnt care!
And if he is the one responsible for the dressing room complaints, who does he think he is? He has done nothing in his time at wigan to allow him to be the spokesperson. If a player like Platt or Bell led a revolt then fair enough, at least they had done enough to earn the respect of the fans and players, but this clown has the heart the size of a pea, and has been here about 5 mins!
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| These players are playing for the biggest and in my eyes the best rugby club in the world and if they dont like the crictism when there playing bad but will want the plaudits when they win. maybe the should put this in the tunnel when they run out THIS IS WIGAN THE CENTRE/HOME OF RUGBY LEAGUE.
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| Quote ="those were the days"These players are playing for the biggest and in my eyes the best rugby club in the world and if they dont like the crictism when there playing bad but will want the plaudits when they win. maybe the should put this in the tunnel when they run out THIS IS WIGAN THE CENTRE/HOME OF RUGBY LEAGUE.'"
Taken from Bill Shankly, but a good example of positivism.
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| They play like a set of tw&ts who looked like they've never passed a ball, lose the first 3 games to opposition we should beat, and then cry when we don't pat them on the back.
Here's a suggestion, show some pride and ability and show you're worth the money paid to you each week to wear a shirt we'd play in for for free given half the chance.
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| I'm just hoping that by outside the club Noble isn't referring to the fans and his words are aimed at the media.
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| Whether Willow did 'walk out' last season or not, did anybody notice where he was when the players huddled after the game last Friday?
He had already walked off the pitch, down the tunnel and into the changing rooms.
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"Whether Willow did 'walk out' last season or not, did anybody notice where he was when the players huddled after the game last Friday?
He had already walked off the pitch, down the tunnel and into the changing rooms.'"
Yes I noticed this.
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| Quote ="captain hotknives"The bit that bothers me is the line "I have to recognise and put right what has gone wrong since the start of the season . So it seems last year there was no problem then . I still remember walking through cardiff after the saints game with the song your worse than castleford being shouted from all directions , and we are worse than castleford again .
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You wish you were ever close to Castleford
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"Whether Willow did 'walk out' last season or not, did anybody notice where he was when the players huddled after the game last Friday?
He had already walked off the pitch, down the tunnel and into the changing rooms.'"
So had Amos Roberts
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| Quote ="Gazemous"You wish you were ever close to Castleford'"
You want to run that by us in English?
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| Quote ="saturday nite fever"So had Amos Roberts'"
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| If the players are shocked at being critised for the performances and results so far just what is their level of ambition? They happy to just be in SL then?
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"If the players are shocked at being critised for the performances and results so far just what is their level of ambition? They happy to just be in SL then?'"
...whilst there's no relegation. There's always the dizzy heights on NL1 after that.
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| "Players don't like hiding in the newsagents if somebody is giving them a mouthful in the street"
If it was true, which player would you say would be most likely to hide in the street?
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| Quote ="1879"if you don't like the heat.............'"
Exactly well said mate.
What a stupid comment from Noble and the players - how can they not expect criticism after losing to a depleted Wakefield side at home and last years bottom two clubs - including the worst side in super league at home.
Noble wants to protect his players - he's not doing a good job coming out and saying what he is doing.
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"www.wigantoday.net/warriors/Noble-hits-back-at-critics.5023166.jp
If that's the case then those concerned need to get real.
If we're losing games against Castleford and Wakefield at home then how can the players not expect to receive high levels of criticism?
What type of reaction do they expect?'"
I was shocked after reading Nobles comments in the WEP tonight.
You would think he is the coach of St.Pats, not Wigan Rugby League.
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| This is the most unanimous thread I have seen on here in ages.If the players were to read it it might give tham a nasty shock as to how they are perceived by the people who pay a good chunk of their wages.
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| Brian Nobles comments actually remind me of Frank Endacotts after we had just lost to Salford.
After the game Happy Frank announced that we wouldnt be the only team to lose at Salford....shortly after he was sacked.
Now Frank may well have been a decent coach but his comments where far removed from how the supporters felt at the time and you just knew that the end was nigh.
Noble seems so out of touch its unreal, if some peole think that its the players fault then just look at some of Nobles decision making last season and this season, he has made some horrendous errors that have led to some awfull results.
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"www.wigantoday.net/warriors/Noble-hits-back-at-critics.5023166.jp
If that's the case then those concerned need to get real.
If we're losing games against Castleford and Wakefield at home then how can the players not expect to receive high levels of criticism?
What type of reaction do they expect?'"
Is this not more aimed at the media than us? Although some of those comments imply it's both. If it is aimed at the fans as well what exactly do the players expect? Fans to go and pat them on the back and tell them they played well in a patronising manner when they quite clearly didn't.
From a personal point of view it irks me when I know I have played badly and someone says "well played". You feel like saying "did you watch the game?". Some players at this club appear to have a severe attitude problem.
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| W@nkers the lot of em!! These players show no pride what so ever. They don't deserve the honour of playing for this great club. Do they think they are performing well?? I want to see players saying how gutted they are at the poor performances and how it just isnt good enough. Not whinging about people criticising them!!
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| I spoke to Happy Frank in Mooloolaba on the Australian Sunshine Coast in November.
When he found out I was from Wigan he spent ages talking about the club.
He said that he never wanted to leave and thought that Wigan were just about to come good again, but we suffered from impatience.
If any of you were not in the SS bar prior to last Fridays game Kris Radlisnski stated that Endacott was the best coach and man manger he had ever played for.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I spoke to Happy Frank in Mooloolaba on the Australian Sunshine Coast in November.
When he found out I was from Wigan he spent ages talking about the club.
He said that he never wanted to leave and thought that Wigan were just about to come good again, but we suffered from impatience.
If any of you were not in the SS bar prior to last Fridays game Kris Radlisnski stated that Endacott was the best coach and man manger he had ever played for.'"
I too was one of the few who didn't want Endacott sacked. I think he made a balls up with team selection for the GF but the timing of the sacking was early in the season when shock horror we had a new half back partnership in Lam and Johns that hadn't had time to gel. (This new half back partnership ring any bells this year? Throw in a new hooker too)
However we had come top of the league that year and this is still one of my favourite seasons. The first year I didn't miss a game and truly caught the Wigan RL bug.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"If an individual is asked "do you want to work for our company anymore"? Then the reply is "No"!.
If this did happen with a Wigan player then there is simply no point in them being there!
If true, then surely something could have been done to get rid!
That couldn't be too difficult could it?'"
I'm not particularly a Coley supporter. In fact I don't think he's currently worth his place in the team, but is anyone actually suggesting that he answered the question "no". As I read it he got up and walked out. Couldn't that be that he found the question insulting? Just a thought....
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"I'm not particularly a Coley supporter. In fact I don't think he's currently worth his place in the team, but is anyone actually suggesting that he answered the question "no". As I read it he got up and walked out. Couldn't that be that he found the question insulting? Just a thought....'"
That's my thoughts too. Likewise I'm not a fan of Coley in fact i'm the complete opposite.
This board can be funny sometimes Alex posts AC ? and all of a sudden everyone now thinks it's fact that Coley walked out when posed a question. This story can either be 100% true or it can be complete and utter b****cks. I would say 90% on here are like me and don't which of the 2 it is but a majority of the 90% seem to have taken the former.
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| Quote ="Woody_woody"That's my thoughts too. Likewise I'm not a fan of Coley in fact i'm the complete opposite.
This board can be funny sometimes Alex posts AC? and all of a sudden everyone now thinks it's fact that Coley walked out when posed a question. This story can either be 100% true or it can be complete and utter b****cks. I would say 90% on here are like me and don't which of the 2 it is but a majority of the 90% seem to have taken the former.'"
Got to admit that it's fun to watch though
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