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| Quote ="The Punisher"Has he found an English grandparent?'"
No a quota spot Monaghan is leaving
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"No a quota spot Monaghan is leaving
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smith for monaghan and tommy to hooker?
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| Quote ="[Gareth"smith for monaghan
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No No No No we don't want that just Gleeson we don't need Monaghan all will come clear over the next few weeks
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| Quote ="jonh"And his contract ends at the end of the current year, so his value goes down every day?
No more than £70k at the very most, dropping every week.'"
His contract doesn't end until November 2010.
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"No No No No we don't want that just Gleeson we don't need Monaghan all will come clear over the next few weeks
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So this Gleeson so called deal is still weeks away ?
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| Quote ="cadoo"Monaghan does want out.
Tony Smith has flogged the players since he arrived and has said that the squad was not fit enough and wanted rid of Briers but Briers didn't want to go and has now been playing out of his skin and has kept his place. How long for remains to be seen.
The current setup is not going down well with most of the Warrington players.'"
It's interesting that Monaghan wants out considering he was quoted in the press criticising previous regimes that the training wasn't intense enough.
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"So this Gleeson so called deal is still weeks away ?'"
No the Gleeson deal is done so i am told with Smith going the other way. Its Smiths replacement that will come clear over the next few weeks.
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"No the Gleeson deal is done so i am told with Smith going the other way. Its Smiths replacement that will come clear over the next few weeks.'"
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"It's interesting that Monaghan wants out considering he was quoted in the press criticising previous regimes that the training wasn't intense enough.'"
Lots of things are said to the press by clubs publicity organizations
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| Tim Smith, well documented head? A definite Tony Smith type of signing.
If you are going to do the bull routine, have an ounce of belief in it.
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"No the Gleeson deal is done so i am told with Smith going the other way. Its Smiths replacement that will come clear over the next few weeks.'"
Is this, by any chance, the Danny Brough rumour again?
I don't want to be over cynical - but someone mentioned this to me the other night, and I dismissed it out of hand.
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"Little PM with any names wont go a miss
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Sorry cant do that just yet but will come clear in the near future
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"No the Gleeson deal is done so i am told with Smith going the other way. Its Smiths replacement that will come clear over the next few weeks.'"
If Smith is moving to Wire it must be him and Goulding?
In an ideal world it would be Gleeson in exchange for Mathers and Smith, however if Wire were to accept that it was almost be on a par with the Newton-Higham swap in terms or worst transfer deals ever.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Is this, by any chance, the Danny Brough rumour again?
I don't want to be over cynical - but someone mentioned this to me the other night, and I dismissed it out of hand.'"
If anyone was to come in it must be an out and out stand-off
With a view to Tomkins getting the no.7 shirt next season.
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| This thread really does take the p155.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Tim Smith, well documented head? A definite Tony Smith type of signing.
If you are going to do the bull routine, have an ounce of belief in it.'"
Well he might think he can work with him i dont know just what i have been told by a good friend at our club. Smith might want to swap him i dont know why he wants him at one time he was going to be the next Australian Number 7 and Tony Smith is an Australian they might be related
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| Quote ="Glynola"If Smith is moving to Wire it must be him and Goulding?
In an ideal world it would be Gleeson in exchange for Mathers and Smith, however if Wire were to accept that it was almost be on a par with the Newton-Higham swap in terms or worst transfer deals ever.'"
Was told Mathers and Smith
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| Doubt it's gonna be Smith, they have Monaghan and Briers?
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| Quote ="p1e e8ter"Doubt it's gonna be Smith, they have Monaghan and Briers?'"
From what i hear Monaghan wants out of Warrington
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Tim Smith, well documented head? A definite Tony Smith type of signing.
If you are going to do the bull routine, have an ounce of belief in it.'"
If you were going to reject him on that basis, you'd be able to field about 3 players this weekend.
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| Gleeson and Monaghan for Mathers and Smith???
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| Breaking News on GMR, its just been announced Wigan have signed Martin Gleeson in exchange for Gareth Hock and Richie Mathers.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I too have reservations about this potential signing, especially if it involves exchanging Goulding. But just to rant on and on about Gleeson not being good enough, being a crap defender, uninterested, etc, is making a case that is simply not borne out by the facts.
That said, I reiterate that I'd consider losing Goulding permanently a steep price to pay (though not necessarily TOO steep - some of us have clearly been lulled into believing that signing 'young British' is more important than signing 'quality')..'"
Wayne Bennett has said if there is a choice between a 20 year old with potential and a top performing 30 year old he will always keep the young player [udespite the fact the older player is currently clearly better then the younger one[/u. That is exactly he situation we are in here IMO as Gleeson is 29 in a few weeks.
People saying Goulding will never make it to justify this swap deal must have a crystal ball better than Bennett's which is of course not a prediction but a stance based on his experience.
If the club want to offload a player it should be Phelps but they can't because other clubs overseas quotas are also full and no one considers him worth taking a quota spot for. So instead we are forced into offering Goulding.
Of course this is al in the open now so if it fails to come off Noble has yet again undermined a couple of players as he offers them to other clubs.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Wayne Bennett has said if there is a choice between a 20 year old with potential and a top performing 30 year old he will always keep the young player [udespite the fact the older player is currently clearly better then the younger one[/u. That is exactly he situation we are in here IMO as Gleeson is 29 in a few weeks.
People saying Goulding will never make it to justify this swap deal must have a crystal ball better than Bennett's which is of course not a prediction but a stance based on his experience.
If the club want to offload a player it should be Phelps but they can't because other clubs overseas quotas are also full and no one considers him worth taking a quota spot for. So instead we are forced into offering Goulding.
Of course this is al in the open now so if it fails to come off Noble has yet again undermined a couple of players as he offers them to other clubs.
Dave'"
This is the problem with your argument. Doesn't Goulding want to leave?
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Boo. Gerroff.
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