I also definately saw the ball clearly touch the ground for a least five seconds. Quite clearly a try.
Mind you, I did happen to have my black and amber glasses on at the time.

Yep.

Usual 2k from Wigan good turn out despite the weather

Right lets clear this up

Joe Arundel grounded both tries. He did say the 2nd one barely touched the ground, BUT ... It Did!! He is a mate of mine, And wouldnt lie. He is an honest guy.

Which is why every single person bar the one that mattered knew that the Chase kick was 18 Inch out of the field of play. But thats not what cost you the game. Come off it if you think it did

You had an 18 point Lead at Half time, And definitely didnt deserve it, What with the good fortune on the 1st try, And the blatant crossing on another you really cant argue

As for the 2nd half, Your still miles in front in the game When Richards drops the ball, Add to that the superb tackles on O'Lock and Deacon, Then you will realise that Cas earned that decision from the Lino

As said, You were actually very fortunate to get anything from the game, Dicko left his studs at home, And on 2 occasions late in the 2nd half we JUST failed to reach grubber kicks. FWIW, Over the 80 minutes, I thought Cas were the better side.

Danny Orr was the best HB on the field, And the introduction of Chase made the difference in attack.


I however, Have no doubt you will make up for it in 3 weeks time.

It was the first Arundel try that was the problem. Watch the Sky replay, the ball was put down on Pat Richards boot.
As for saying Cas were the better side, give over. Will you ever see pat Richards lose a ball like that, or Lockers and Deacon drop the ball over the line?

Then of course you scored from the ball in touch given by the touchjudge with a white stick and a guide dog.

i do believe marklove the tj is from sthelens

Dont forget cas earned that dodgy lino decision though!



Biggest load of crap ive heard!

Was it Marklove or Martin who gave those decisions?

marklove i heard

You got your 1st try from a stroke of luck. When does Kirk Dixon miss kicks from the side of the post ?

Dont get me wrong, The kick was out of play. But you had won all the 50/50 calls up to then.

And Lockers and Deacon were as a result of great last ditch defence.

We outscored you 5 tries to 4. Thats reason enough to suggest we were the best side.

The tide ahd already turned before that incident with the kick.
you could already sence that the only side likely to be scoring were Cas.
We played the last twenty or so trying to cling on in a game that should have been well put to bed.

How people then pick out odd calls as being the difference is beyond me.

If people are honest we were very lucky to leave with a point.
Yes we were winning by 18 points but we were never really playing all that well.
Castleford kept going and we didnt simple as that.

Agreed.

We threw a point away due to a poor attitude. The refs decisions and players tiring after Friday were all a sideshow to the main problem and it's been a problem all season. We're trying to get through games by doing 'just enough' rather then trying to run the cleaners through teams.

Another strange decision was not to "take the two" from the penalty just to the side of the posts early in the second half. That would have put us 24 - 4 up.

One of the worst decisions iv ever witnessed at an RL game, I was right near it and it was 2 yards out, how can the touch judge "imagine" a ball bouncing. Nice to see MR Bentham before the game clearly swearing at Wigan fans that were giving him stick when he was warming up, very professional.

I'm still not getting this whole thread.

Am i right in thinking Cas got the put in? If so it wouldn't have mattered if the ball bounced or not we'd have got the scrum feed with the only decision that possibly could be wrong being where the scrum took place.

The linesman made the call that a Wigan man had played at the ball and touched it with his hand therefore meaning Cas got the ball at the scrum.

The ball bouncing in play or out on the full seems irrelevant.

I wasn't concentrating at the time to be fair though so maybe i'm totally wrong.

It was from a 20m restart. If it bounces its Cas ball. If it doesnt its ours on the 20.

Shocking call (as was the grounding) but not the reason we drew.

Also, if we got all the 50/50 calls then we must have been massively undisciplined as we lost the penalty count.

Thats explains that then!

I was talking to my mate at the side of me at the time and next minute I just heard people going mentle and all the players running over to the touch judge.

I thought it was just in general play.

As mentione by xieron earlier in the thread, Did he also tap it before kicking it (We think he did)? If he did it wouldn't have mattered if it did bounce or not as it was "In Play" and not a restart.
You are supposed to kick the ball without tapping it.

Not as funny as the ball steal on Pat Richards by the invisible man!!!

I thought they were about to tap it before Chase chipped in and kicked.

But did he tap it before he kicked it?

My feeling at the time was that another player had tapped it, then passed it back to Chase for the kick. However it may just have looked like he tapped it, without any contact. You know, like Leon Pryce "didn't" tap it 3 times in succession at Knowsley Shed last year, before Amos got binned for tackling the player on the goal line "before" he tapped it?

You are joking surely???

There were plenty Wigan fans there certainly, a decent number of us behind the sticks and i'd say about a third of the covered stand to our left was Wiganers.

No where near 2k though that's for sure