I stand corrected.

Posting online that you've heard something very damaging which, for legal reasons, is being kept quiet. And then asking if anyone else knows anything about it - and inviting them to post - is definitely a sign of integrity.

On the other hand, in pure entertainment terms, "I know something you don't know" was always good for a laugh. Back in the schoolyard.

Correct.

Please note, i know the next bit is long, you don't have to read it or agree with me and if your attention span won't allow you to reach the end without being bored or falling asleep then don't say you weren't warned.

I've noticed several derogatory comments about Mike's site on here and the other way round over the years. What some people could do with thinking about is that the vast majority on both sites are just ordinary Wigan fans giving their opinions or posting stories, nothing more nothing less. I 'know' more people on there for the simple reason that I post more on there but thats only because its a better format for my phone.

There are as many opinions on Mike's site I disagree with as on here and neither site has any rules on the personality traits you need to have in order to sign up and post. The 'I-don't-post-on-there-because-so-and-so-does' brigade are like kids in school who's mummy's come in and ask if their little darling can move classes because they're getting 'picked on'. Its differences in opinions and personalities that keep things interesting on forums. I'm sure some would love a world where everyone else came out of the same mould as them, was all nicey nice and agreed with everything they say all the time or a world where they're allowed to act like arrogant know-it-alls but nobody else is. I suggest that its about time certain people started acting like adults and accepting that you can disagree with what others say and how they say it without any of this 'I'm not your friend' rubbish.

Nobody is forced to post on any site or to get involved with rumours or speculation if they don't want, but the suggestion that there are wilder rumours on there than on here, or that Mike's site has more people who think they are in the know than on here is a total nonsense.

Please lets put this 'us and them' rubbish to bed once and for all, we support the same club after all. If this is a problem for you, it must have been such a difficult time when you first realised that all the other boys in your ballet class
were more blessed in the manhood department.

Because some of the rumours make me laugh and it's a topic for confirmed signings too

Incorrect.

I wasn't commenting whether the rumour was a wild one or not. I was questioning the validity of claiming to know something shocking, refusing to say what it is, and then inviting others to post what they know. Seems a bit self-contradictory to me, whichever forum it's been posted on.

I'm not sure where comparing willy sizes in ballet class comes into that, but each of us must draw on his own life experience I suppose.

Bit of an overreaction there mate. I don't think many people have something against the posters on there, or I certainly don't anyway. For me it's just that a more people use this site and more regularly and fans of other clubs can join in. Plus trivial stuff like the layout, it might sound elitist but I think the Gold, Silver, Bronze member etc is a good touch, I'm not saying I treat it like a hierarchy but it's handy to know whether the someone is a regular poster or not.

It was a general post not personally aimed at you Cruncher, I can only assume by the fact you replied that some of it applies to you. I'm sure people can judge for themselves which part(s) of my post that would be. If you don't think there's a problem then that's your choice but that doesn't make me incorrect, but if there is an issue, however small, why perpetuate it?

Grimmy, if my post was based entirely on a couple of comments on here then of course it was an over-reaction mate, but it was based on however many years worth of comments on BOTH sites. I also like to discuss things with fans of other clubs and I do in a number of places but there are times when I feel it can end up as a distraction which is why I don't think its necessary for people to think its got to be one or the other, the two sites are different but to say one is better than the other is purely down to personal opinion. Incidentally Mike's site has a link for 'active topics' which is the link I use for my bookmark for the site because of the issue with the layout you describe which basically makes things the same as on here, but again its personal opinion which people prefer but generally the things discussed are pretty similar and discussed well on both sites. It could be argued that at least with the separate sections its far easier to see where a particular rumour has been discussed without having to trawl through however many pages first to avoid duplication. I neither have a problem nor care about anyone preferring one site or the other but I find generalisations about how things are discussed, and most of all about the people discussing them, very annoying. i think I've said more than enough on the subject lol

Assume what you wish. I'm more inclined to go with the evidence of my own eyes, which was you placing the word 'Correct' at the end of a post suggesting I lacked integrity.

The way I see it, this has not been, until you made an issue of it, a fight between two websites. The OP - that's who I was originally criticising - was also criticised by posters on Mike's site.

think we may need to change the title of this thread to "handbags at 10 paces!"

Good point. The man who never argues with anyone puts us back on the straight and narrow.

aww i tried to be nice,
im just argumentative,
least i admit it!

I see Bradford have signed Kyle Briggs from Featherstone, decent signing in my opinion. He's always looked a little to good for the Championship. www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 05,00.html

I see Bradford have signed Kyle Briggs from Featherstone, decent signing in my opinion. He's always looked a little to good for the Championship. www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 05,00.html

Quote ="LovesToSpooge"I see Bradford have signed Kyle Briggs from Featherstone, decent signing in my opinion. He's always looked a little to good for the Championship. www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 05,00.html'" Interesting. Almost overnight, Bradford suddenly seem to be getting their act together.

Quote ="LovesToSpooge"I see Bradford have signed Kyle Briggs from Featherstone, decent signing in my opinion. He's always looked a little to good for the Championship. www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 05,00.html'" Interesting. Almost overnight, Bradford suddenly seem to be getting their act together.

And England RL seem to be at their lowest point in recent history?

Anyone spot a common factor in Bradfords resurgence and Englands downturn?

Quote ="LovesToSpooge"I see Bradford have signed Kyle Briggs from Featherstone, decent signing in my opinion. He's always looked a little to good for the Championship. www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 05,00.html'" Good young player, from what I've seen of him on TV. Could well be SL standard.

Quote ="LovesToSpooge"I see Bradford have signed Kyle Briggs from Featherstone, decent signing in my opinion. He's always looked a little to good for the Championship. www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 05,00.html'" Good young player, from what I've seen of him on TV. Could well be SL standard.

Nice to see them giving a young, English player from the championsip a go and the majority of their signings have been pretty solid.

A small step in the right direction by getting a place in the top 8 would be a good season for them imo.

How bad is finches neck problem for him to need surgery.

we will find out soon after he has had his surgery , fingers crossed he will make a swift recovery

Hope its nothing to serious

Fancy this chap as a replacement for Carmont? www.3news.co.nz/Sonny-Bill-linke ... +League%29

Fancy this chap as a replacement for Carmont? www.3news.co.nz/Sonny-Bill-linke ... +League%29

Mick Potter is a very good coach in my opinion. He did wonders at Catalans and I was very happy when I saw Saints were getting rid.

I think Potter is a very good coach but I do not think he is capable of coaching a top side to success, he seems to struggle working with the big names but brings out the best in the not so star quality players.

Bradford should go really well this year then.

Quote ="tivolipoo"Fancy this chap as a replacement for Carmont? www.3news.co.nz/Sonny-Bill-linke ... +League%29'" Good player but I dont think he would be good for Wigan. He will want top dollar and be off as soon as he gets a better offer.

Quote ="tivolipoo"Fancy this chap as a replacement for Carmont? www.3news.co.nz/Sonny-Bill-linke ... +League%29'" Good player but I dont think he would be good for Wigan. He will want top dollar and be off as soon as he gets a better offer.

If Potter gets us into the 8 he'll make 99% of Bulls fans happy.

He's just the man to get us on the up again, perhaps doing a job like Noble did for you guys. He may not be the man to take us back to the very top but he'll certainly put us on the right road.

Best of luck for next season (apart from when you're playing us).

Reciprocated.

I don't think you'll find a single Wigan fan - not on this forum anyway - who isn't glad to see Bradford looking like they're over their recent problems. There weren't too many of us with much time for Steve McNamara, but to see Bradford slump the way they did in recent years was quite a shock. We need as many strong, competitive clubs as we can get, and to have you lot up there challenging again would be ideal.

If Bradford, Hull and Huddersfield fulfill their potential this year, the final play-offs could be awesome.