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| Quote ="MadDogg"Wigan I guess now have the option to rest some players themselves. Certainly wouldn't be playing Thompson, Faz or Wardle. Maybe French, Field and Smith could do with the game time.
Ultimately well be going into the playoffs off the back of two low intensity games and a week off which has both pros and cons.'"
Wigan already named their squad though so unless they want to be giving up interchanges they can only leave 4 out.
Plus with a week off next week anyway I assume Peet would be happy for most of them to ply. Maybe rest Ellis as he loves a ban!
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"I find that a strange move from Salford. I thought they'd have gone all out for a home semi final. They'll be banking on Leigh beating Saints now or they'll be coming to us in the playoffs.'"
Maybe they fancy it
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| Bar one of the biggest shocks in Rugby League history, that is the LLS in the bag. I doubt they'll be happy over Hull way and no doubt rugby league social media will have this as our fault.
No real point is resting anyone unless they're struggling with injury. We'll have a couple of weeks to get over head knocks and as long as they keep their discipline, it'll be good to get all of the players a run out. You don't want to go in to a play off semi with some players having had 3 weeks off.
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| Quote ="Zig"Who is giving those odds? I will have some of that.'"
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"I find that a strange move from Salford. I thought they'd have gone all out for a home semi final. They'll be banking on Leigh beating Saints now or they'll be coming to us in the playoffs.'"
Psychologically it's smart though. If they end up beating you in the play-offs, they'll be coming back to us with a team that "didn't get beat by them 2 weeks ago".
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Bar one of the biggest shocks in Rugby League history, that is the LLS in the bag. I doubt they'll be happy over Hull way and no doubt rugby league social media will have this as our fault.
No real point is resting anyone unless they're struggling with injury. We'll have a couple of weeks to get over head knocks and as long as they keep their discipline, it'll be good to get all of the players a run out. You don't want to go in to a play off semi with some players having had 3 weeks off.'"
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| I’d rest Wardle, Thompson and Havard bring in Eckerlsey Walters and Hill.
Keeps the players one injury away from being in the team involved and keeps 3 key players away from injury or suspension.
Shame our epic game with HKR wasn’t this week.
To win the LLS after beating Penrith, winning at Wembley and missing some much game time from our 1, 6, 7 and 9 is an outstanding achievement.
5 straight trophies.
I go into the playoffs very confident.
Analysing the defeats this year
Saints GF (great battle in which we looked to begin to get on top before the red)
Hull KR (second best team in the league, away from home, watching that game back we still had a lot of chances)
Hull away (No Field or French, bad defeat but showed character to nearly pinch it)
Wire home (No Field or French, very good team who came with a point to prove, we also played with Farrell at Hooker for the majority of the second half)
Leeds away (3rd game in 10 days, no French)
Very very good regular season.
Hope we can back it up in the playoffs.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"I find that a strange move from Salford. I thought they'd have gone all out for a home semi final. They'll be banking on Leigh beating Saints now or they'll be coming to us in the playoffs.'"
Personally, I don't think naming a reserve team is in the spirit of the game but they are not the first to do it!
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Hope you didn't
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I didn't mate, I think the bookies must be privy to inside information.
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| Quote ="Zig"I didn't mate, I think the bookies must be privy to inside information.'"
Definitely. Salford were +28.5 with B365 and I was sorely tempted but glad I didn't bother now.
Occasionally they do get it wrong and you can make easy money though. I remember twice over the last few years that Saints have played London and Castleford and told everyone days before the squads were announced that players would be rested. The bookies didn't react in time and everyone was lumping on London and Cas at +30 ish. I know a few fans that bet on the outright result.
We lost both games.
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| It'd be tempting to be a bit trigger happy with making changes looking at Salford's team, but I don't think you can mess about with team selection this close to knock out rugby.
At a maximum, I'd give Byrne bigger minutes to let him carry on from last week and bring in Walters.
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| Wouldn't rest anyone, our strengths this season has been to play our strongest team where we can, we've not really hit our straps since just after the Wembley win. Going into the playoffs with confidence would really give us that boost.
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| I'd limit the minutes of Thompson, Havard and Ellis and get plenty in to Byrne, Dupree and Mago but keep a full team. Mago really seems to benefit from long spells over the following weeks and with a week off next week, it would be handy to get 50/60 minutes in to him.
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| Weve got a 16 day gap hopefully. to our next game anyway so should select the best side and keep team consistentcy
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| Quote ="Irregs#16"In East Hull maybe, but here in West Hull.....hilarious!
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| Full strength, no messing around. Need to keep the momentum going and keep building combinations. They get a week off next week anyway.
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| Very arrogant from Salford. In some ways I can understand they are protecting against injuries and/or bans and they may well lose with a full strength team.
However its clear that they are expecting Leigh to beat us so they will still be at home. If we do beat Leigh then we will be at H to Salford and I would be very confident now with players back (unless we get more injuries or bans against Leigh)
It's also completely ruined tomorrrow nights game as a contest.
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| Quote ="Stu M"Very arrogant from Salford. In some ways I can understand they are protecting against injuries and/or bans and they may well lose with a full strength team.
However its clear that they are expecting Leigh to beat us so they will still be at home. If we do beat Leigh then we will be at H to Salford and I would be very confident now with players back (unless we get more injuries or bans against Leigh)
It's also completely ruined tomorrrow nights game as a contest.'"
I don't think it's arrogant at all, I think they just acknowledge they have a small squad and they desperately need their best players fit, fresh and available for the play offs. Also, home advantage to Salford probably isn't quite as big as it would be for some clubs. If they play Leigh at home, it's likely as many, if not more Leigh fans would be in the ground.
I also saw a theory around the financial aspect and how gate receipts are split 3 ways in the play offs (both clubs and the RFL). If that is the case, Salford will financially be better off from going away to Saints and splitting a gate of 10,000, than they would be playing at home and splitting a 5,000 gate. If money is as tight as they like to let everyone know, then there may be a couple of reasons at play as to why a home play off isn't the be all and end all for them.
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| Quote ="Stu M"Very arrogant from Salford. In some ways I can understand they are protecting against injuries and/or bans and they may well lose with a full strength team.
However its clear that they are expecting Leigh to beat us so they will still be at home. If we do beat Leigh then we will be at H to Salford and I would be very confident now with players back (unless we get more injuries or bans against Leigh)
It's also completely ruined tomorrrow nights game as a contest.'"
But what are the chances they would've beaten us anyway? We hardly ever lose at home and have basically a full team to pick from and the LLS to win.
I do think you would beat them fairly easily at your place. Their away form is pretty bad, whereas their home form is (I think) 2nd best in the league after ours. All it takes is a couple of bans/injuries to your key players this weekend though and it evens things up.
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| I really hope Leigh win and make the play offs, just for the quality of that opening week of play off games. Fixtures between Wire and Saints and Salford and Leigh look far better and far more competitive than Wire and Catalans and Saints and Salford. If it's the latter, I reckon Wire will put 40+ on Catalans and Saints will get over Salford reasonably comfortably.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I really hope Leigh win and make the play offs, just for the quality of that opening week of play off games. Fixtures between Wire and Saints and Salford and Leigh look far better and far more competitive than Wire and Catalans and Saints and Salford. If it's the latter, I reckon Wire will put 40+ on Catalans and Saints will get over Salford reasonably comfortably.'"
I've been really down on us all season for obvious reasons however there is a part of me that thinks we can go to Warrington and win even if Leigh beat us this week. Obviously I'd rather play Salford at H but there were some green shoots in our win over Cas. Whilst they had nothing to play for it was good to see us much more expansive and whilst naturally clunky at times, the difference that Welsby, Percival and even Dodd made was marked. Clark got 20 mins or so and Walmsley took his oven gloves off and caught the ball this time.
Knowles is the big one, his line speed, aggression and metres made plus his linking with the spine does make us look a different side.
A packed out away end at Warrington with no injuries or bans this week would still give me hope.
However that said we do need to beat Leigh. Our away form has been poor and our record against the top 6 even more so. Do I think we are good enough to win the comp? No but there are still a lot of big game experienced players in this team so there's a chance we will make a good fist of it.
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| Quote ="Stu M"I've been really down on us all season for obvious reasons however there is a part of me that thinks we can go to Warrington and win even if Leigh beat us this week. Obviously I'd rather play Salford at H but there were some green shoots in our win over Cas. Whilst they had nothing to play for it was good to see us much more expansive and whilst naturally clunky at times, the difference that Welsby, Percival and even Dodd made was marked. Clark got 20 mins or so and Walmsley took his oven gloves off and caught the ball this time.
Knowles is the big one, his line speed, aggression and metres made plus his linking with the spine does make us look a different side.
A packed out away end at Warrington with no injuries or bans this week would still give me hope.
However that said we do need to beat Leigh. Our away form has been poor and our record against the top 6 even more so. Do I think we are good enough to win the comp? No but there are still a lot of big game experienced players in this team so there's a chance we will make a good fist of it.'"
I do have a similar feeling re Saints. I can see Leigh winning tomorrow night and sending you to Wire, but you showed in the first 15 minutes in your last fixture against them that you can compete. It was a pretty decent start and I was thinking Saints may be back (the less said about the remaining 65 mins, the better ).
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| Quote ="Stu M"I've been really down on us all season for obvious reasons however there is a part of me that thinks we can go to Warrington and win even if Leigh beat us this week. Obviously I'd rather play Salford at H but there were some green shoots in our win over Cas. Whilst they had nothing to play for it was good to see us much more expansive and whilst naturally clunky at times, the difference that Welsby, Percival and even Dodd made was marked. Clark got 20 mins or so and Walmsley took his oven gloves off and caught the ball this time.
Knowles is the big one, his line speed, aggression and metres made plus his linking with the spine does make us look a different side.
A packed out away end at Warrington with no injuries or bans this week would still give me hope.
However that said we do need to beat Leigh. Our away form has been poor and our record against the top 6 even more so. Do I think we are good enough to win the comp? No but there are still a lot of big game experienced players in this team so there's a chance we will make a good fist of it.'"
I think you're right to mention the big game aspect. I don't get the sense that Wire have too many players that you'd say raise their game in the big games. There were certainly a few who disappointed at Wembley, albeit that was just one game.
I think beating Wire, Wigan and Hull KR (for example) in consecutive weeks will be beyond Saints, but you'll obviously be a different proposition with some players back compared to where you have been for the last couple of months. I'd be a lot happier if our route to silverware doesn't involve playing Saints (unless it's in the final!).
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| Quote ="Stu M"I've been really down on us all season for obvious reasons however there is a part of me that thinks we can go to Warrington and win even if Leigh beat us this week. Obviously I'd rather play Salford at H but there were some green shoots in our win over Cas. Whilst they had nothing to play for it was good to see us much more expansive and whilst naturally clunky at times, the difference that Welsby, Percival and even Dodd made was marked. Clark got 20 mins or so and Walmsley took his oven gloves off and caught the ball this time.
Knowles is the big one, his line speed, aggression and metres made plus his linking with the spine does make us look a different side.
A packed out away end at Warrington with no injuries or bans this week would still give me hope.
However that said we do need to beat Leigh. Our away form has been poor and our record against the top 6 even more so. Do I think we are good enough to win the comp? No but there are still a lot of big game experienced players in this team so there's a chance we will make a good fist of it.'"
SKY / RFL would have been loving blowing smoke up their own s this weekend on TV with Wigan v Salford (hoping Wigan lose so they can hype up Friday night for KR), but Salford likely to have stuck a spanner in the works there
however, they will still be saying how 1st - 7th are all still to play for with only Wigan guaranteed 1st or 2nd, KR 1st to 3rd, Wire 2nd or 3rd, and then Salford, Saints, Leigh and poss Catalan 4th - 6th, so they'll be hyping it up as best ever finish to a season. IN reality Wigan have been good enough to finish top (assuming we win), KR have had a good season, but then Wire through to Catalan have all be inconsistent, capable of winning on their day, but equally underperforming
I think most Wiganers still feel Saints are the biggest threat to us hopefully going on to win back to back due to their squad having big game experience, that KR, Wire, Salford and Leigh dont really have. As a Wiganer, i prefer us to play week in week out, as we've shown in the past that a week off doesnt always suit us, but we cant say that we are tired if we cant get past whoever we draw in the semi as we'll have had a relatively easy game tomorrow (assumption based on Salford team) and 2 weeks off to recover and train
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Knowles is the big one, his line speed, aggression and metres made plus his linking with the spine does make us look a different side.
A packed out away end at Warrington with no injuries or bans this week would still give me hope.
However that said we do need to beat Leigh. Our away form has been poor and our record against the top 6 even more so. Do I think we are good enough to win the comp? No but there are still a lot of big game experienced players in this team so there's a chance we will make a good fist of it.'"
I've said for weeks that there is no way I would rule out Saints. They just won't give anybody an easy play off game. If you play Salford at home, I feel you'll win and then likely come here and I can't lie, I would feel extremely nervous. There's no arrogance in saying we're in a better side but we know full well play off games are different and teams struggle to really open up and play their natural game and that brings Saints right in to it. It'll take a couple of off days and those play off nerves grabbing a couple of sides but I see no reason why Saints couldn't win it. The media seem to want to build a 2 horse race. That was between Warrington and HKR a few weeks ago and now it's between Wigan and HKR but I honestly think it's a really open race. Wigan are the favourites, no doubts about that but I think all of Wire, HKR and Saints could also win it. I don't see Salford, Leigh, Catalans etc having enough tbh.
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