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| I hope we can get Cooper in this season and if we can, I think he’ll really add to the side and he could play a pretty big part in the run in. I look at Singleton and Byrne and I’m happy overall with how both have gone this season but at times, the ground they make can be reasonably limited and Cooper is excellent at that. Another option to add to the competition can’t hurt.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I hope we can get Cooper in this season and if we can, I think he’ll really add to the side and he could play a pretty big part in the run in. I look at Singleton and Byrne and I’m happy overall with how both have gone this season but at times, the ground they make can be reasonably limited and Cooper is excellent at that. Another option to add to the competition can’t hurt.'"
That's my thinking. TBH I'm worried about centre too, but if KPP can stay fit and likewise Bibby, we might just scrape through.
If Copper comes back, then Singo doesn't get back in the 17 imo. I'm happy with that.
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"That's my thinking. TBH I'm worried about centre too, but if KPP can stay fit and likewise Bibby, we might just scrape through.
If Copper comes back, then Singo doesn't get back in the 17 imo. I'm happy with that.'"
Overall I think Singletons having a really good season but unfortunately in the really big games and against Saints in particular, he struggles for go forward. He’s just not quick enough to get going forward before he’s stopped in his tracks. I do think he’s keep his place however. I sense Peet really likes what he brings and if I guessed, I could see him and Cooper starting and maybe Mago missing out (if Cooper comes in).
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Overall I think Singletons having a really good season but unfortunately in the really big games and against Saints in particular, he struggles for go forward. He’s just not quick enough to get going forward before he’s stopped in his tracks. I do think he’s keep his place however. I sense Peet really likes what he brings and if I guessed, I could see him and Cooper starting and maybe Mago missing out (if Cooper comes in).'"
I guess my issue with Singleton is what he brings, or rather what he doesn't bring to the side.
As our 1st choice and most experienced prop, he should be so much more. I look at him Vs Byrne and he's being outplayed by a lad who's years his junior and arguably 5th choice.
Who out of the two deserves the rub of playing with Copper and the benefits it will bring to their game? The guy who should already be providing that support for guys like Havard, Byrne and potentially Ellis? Or the lad who's had to develop fast because of a lack of real experienced support?
I really do think that, regardless of how good Cooper is, we wouldn't have signed him if Singo could perform as our prop leader. How many props will we have next year 6 + Silva?
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Overall I think Singletons having a really good season but unfortunately in the really big games and against Saints in particular, he struggles for go forward. He’s just not quick enough to get going forward before he’s stopped in his tracks. I do think he’s keep his place however. I sense Peet really likes what he brings and if I guessed, I could see him and Cooper starting and maybe Mago missing out (if Cooper comes in).'"
I’ve been critical of Mago but thought he was superb against Saints. Rarely got dominated and some quick play the balls really got us going. His carry before our first try epitomised this, left Roby on the ground and there defensive line was panicked. More of this from him please.
Would love Cooper in now. Been keeping an eye on his Wire stats and he’s close to if it over 100m every game.
Would also be an easier transition for next year if he gets 10 games in this year.
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| Quote ="NSW"I’ve been critical of Mago but thought he was superb against Saints. Rarely got dominated and some quick play the balls really got us going. His carry before our first try epitomised this, left Roby on the ground and there defensive line was panicked. More of this from him please.
Would love Cooper in now. Been keeping an eye on his Wire stats and he’s close to if it over 100m every game.
Would also be an easier transition for next year if he gets 10 games in this year.'"
It was comfortably his best game against Saints. I don’t have any real issue with Mago. He plays short stints and usually makes an impact and that seems to be his role. There’s only so many minutes available realistically. It’s not from a personal perspective that I feel he could be the man to miss out if Cooper came in but just a guess what Peet may do. I think he really trusts Singleton, Byrne and Havard and that leaves the two overseas lads fighting with Cooper for 2 spots. I could be way off and he would leave Singleton out. They’ll all be pushing for places anyway and that’s really positive.
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| INOUT Quote ="NickyKiss"It was comfortably his best game against Saints. I don’t have any real issue with Mago. He plays short stints and usually makes an impact and that seems to be his role. There’s only so many minutes available realistically. It’s not from a personal perspective that I feel he could be the man to miss out if Cooper came in but just a guess what Peet may do. I think he really trusts Singleton, Byrne and Havard and that leaves the two overseas lads fighting with Cooper for 2 spots. I could be way off and he would leave Singleton out. They’ll all be pushing for places anyway and that’s really positive.'"
As we’ve found this year they’ll always been the odd injuries and suspensions in the front row. If Cooper does come in early then it’ll be Partington who gets impacted most I reckon.
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| Quote ="NSW"INOUTAs we’ve found this year they’ll always been the odd injuries and suspensions in the front row. If Cooper does come in early then it’ll be Partington who gets impacted most I reckon.'"
I wonder if Partington may need to go in order for Cooper to come in? He isn’t getting many minutes as things are and would drop to 7th choice prop if Cooper came in. You’re right with injuries and suspensions. On the days where all 6 (including Cooper and excluding Partington) were available you’d have a choice to make.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I wonder if Partington may need to go in order for Cooper to come in? He isn’t getting many minutes as things are and would drop to 7th choice prop if Cooper came in. You’re right with injuries and suspensions. On the days where all 6 (including Cooper and excluding Partington) were available you’d have a choice to make.'"
Cooper and Byrne to start would be so much better as, not only would Cooper give us more go forward, but I think it would greatly impact on Byrne. He's been excellent this year but I think he suffers a little from being partnered by Singleton who doesn't bring much on that front (although he does bring other things). I think it's a little like Matty Lees at Saints who definitely prospers from having Walmsley making the hard yards.
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"I’m led to believe he will be joining us immediately.'"
Dan, on the other forum, broke this news at 12.30pm today. What are you doing stealing his thunder?
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I wonder if Partington may need to go in order for Cooper to come in? He isn’t getting many minutes as things are and would drop to 7th choice prop if Cooper came in. You’re right with injuries and suspensions. On the days where all 6 (including Cooper and excluding Partington) were available you’d have a choice to make.'"
I don’t think so. We were under the salary cap before Zak’s departure so there should be enough money in the pot.
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| Quote ="Zig"I don’t think so. We were under the salary cap before Zak’s departure so there should be enough money in the pot.'"
That depends whether or not Field got a pay increase from now when he signed again
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| Not sure about Cooper downing tools he missed last weeks game with Covid,i would also start with Mago tonight and make him do at least 15 minutes in his first stint he needs to build his fitness up
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| Quote ="warrior1872"Not sure about Cooper downing tools he missed last weeks game with Covid,i would also start with Mago tonight and make him do at least 15 minutes in his first stint he needs to build his fitness up'"
How will that improve his fitness? 15 mins, is 15 mins isn't it?
Said this earlier in the week, but I'm sure the club have plans for him in the off season.
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| Quote ="warrior1872"Not sure about Cooper downing tools he missed last weeks game with Covid,i would also start with Mago tonight and make him do at least 15 minutes in his first stint he needs to build his fitness up'"
I think the Covid story was convenient.
Sounds like it is happening. Should be confirmed in the next couple of days and available for selection next week.
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| Could be very significant for our chances if he joins us this year.
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| Powell doing the same thing as when he was at Castleford when we signed Clarke he would not let him come early doing the same with Cooper.
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| Quote ="Ashton Bears"Powell doing the same thing as when he was at Castleford when we signed Clarke he would not let him come early doing the same with Cooper.'"
Is he blocking it? They’ve had Nicholson early, so hopefully that can oil the wheels.
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"How will that improve his fitness? 15 mins, is 15 mins isn't it?
Said this earlier in the week, but I'm sure the club have plans for him in the off season.'"
He needs to play more minutes that's how you build up fitness
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| So is he coming, or not? The Wire board seem to be seeing the same thing as on here.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Is he blocking it? They’ve had Nicholson early, so hopefully that can oil the wheels.'"
Think they paid £40k for Nicholson to come early
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| Quote ="NSW"Think they paid £40k for Nicholson to come early'"
If that doesn’t scream desperation I don’t know what does. Sinking ship
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| Quote ="NSW"Think they paid £40k for Nicholson to come early'"
And he is not on a small contract.
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| Quote ="Ashton Bears"Powell doing the same thing as when he was at Castleford when we signed Clarke he would not let him come early doing the same with Cooper.'"
I thought the move was a necessity to bring someone else in (Dufty was mentioned)? If you don’t have to get rid of him I can 100% see why he is blocking the move. Yes it’s a bit stubborn and if he’s going to keep Cooper out of the first team it’s a bit of a slap in the face for a long time servant but Cooper coming could give Wigan a boost that could potentially push us to Grand Final glory for one of Warringtons rivals.
On a side note I am still shocked that Warrington fans are backing Powell as much as they are, I keep hearing he’s changing culture, this isn’t his squad etc but for me he’s brought in a lot of his own signings and has a strong squad to work with and whatever he’s changing seems to be having a negative affect on the squad as they’re going backwards. IMO Peet took over a team in a worse state but there is no way I would be happy if we where in Warringtons current position and I would want a change.
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