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| Unbelievable.
The one and only time that I will *ever* want those gobshïtes to win a game and they blow it.
OK. Bring on the Loiners.
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| All the pressure's on them next week, bring it on.
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| You have to hand it to Sinfield, that was some play. He gets MOM for one kick but fair enough.
What an opportunity for us to knock them off their perch. I think it's a fixture the game deserved and I can't help but feel relieved that any hype around Flowers return to Old Trafford will be dampened a little.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"You have to hand it to Sinfield, that was some play. He gets MOM for one kick but fair enough.
What an opportunity for us to knock them off their perch. I think it's a fixture the game deserved and I can't help but feel relieved that any hype around Flowers return to Old Trafford will be dampened a little.'"
It was only a couple of weeks ago everyone had wrote Leeds off.
There was no way in hell Sinfield or Peacock were going out with a loss at Headingley.
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| What a great match that was. You have to wonder, is it better to be wearied but battle-hardened, as Leeds are tonight, or rested without being tested as we were last night? Guess we'll find out next week!
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| Whilst it's not the final I wanted, it *is* the one that is right for the game.
The 2 best teams in the league, separated only by goal difference, top attack (Leeds scored 944) against the best defence (Despite what Sky claim, WE had the best defence by only conceding 530 - Hudds let in 534).
Its' going to be a lot tougher than Saints would have been, but right now, I don't fear anyone.
Let's send "sir" Kevin home in tears.
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| Quote ="Pie Eyed"Whilst it's not the final I wanted, it *is* the one that is right for the game.
The 2 best teams in the league, separated only by goal difference, top attack (Leeds scored 944) against the best defence (Despite what Sky claim, WE had the best defence by only conceding 530 - Hudds let in 534).
Its' going to be a lot tougher than Saints would have been, but right now, I don't fear anyone.
Let's send "sir" Kevin home in tears.'"
All the hype will be for Leeds, all the press interviews and everyone will expect them to finish the job for the old boys retiring. I think that takes some heat off us and allows us to focus on the job.
Let's send Sinfield, Pescock and the proper Leuluai's relation in to retirement on a loss like we did with KFC.
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| I remember a certain Cunningham & graham playing their last games against Wigan in a grand final, that didn't have a fairytale ending either
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| Quote ="hatty"I remember a certain Cunningham & graham playing their last games against Wigan in a grand final, that didn't have a fairytale ending either'"
Another reason why 2010 was such a great season.
A win in the last ever derby match at KR and we sent KFC packing on the back of a loss.
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| Graham played in the 2011 GF against Leeds.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Graham played in the 2011 GF against Leeds.'"
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| Quote ="CyberPieMan"Ah well Lanc vs Yorks it is then'"
Do you mean Greater Manchester v Yorkshire?
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| I think you will beat Leeds next week there players looked totally drained mentally and physically, could be a bridge too far for them.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"I think you will beat Leeds next week there players looked totally drained mentally and physically, could be a bridge too far for them.'"
Never write Leeds off. Ever.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"I think you will beat Leeds next week there players looked totally drained mentally and physically, could be a bridge too far for them.'"
With about ten minutes left Peacock was completely spent, at one point I thought he was going to collapse/throw up. I dont know how he carried on. That's got to have had an effect on him.
Still too many big name players big finals experience to call it for me.
Wigan need to start like a house on fire (as we did against Saints in 2010. Oh and try not to get a player sent off early on again would help!
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| Peacock was knackered because he's 37 years old, and made 50 tackles, and 21 carries. He's looked knackered after 10 minutes of every game for almost a decade now.
More concerning is our potential injury crisis in the back row.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Peacock was knackered because he's 37 years old, and made 50 tackles, and 21 carries. He's looked knackered after 10 minutes of every game for almost a decade now.
More concerning is our potential injury crisis in the back row.'"
What's a potential injury crisis? Either there is one or there isn't!
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| Quote ="Sweaty Betty's"What's a potential injury crisis? Either there is one or there isn't!'"
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Peacock was knackered because he's 37 years old, and made 50 tackles, and 21 carries. He's looked knackered after 10 minutes of every game for almost a decade now.
More concerning is our potential injury crisis in the back row.'"
Hes was outstanding last night.
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| Quote ="CM Punk"All the pressure's on them next week, bring it on.'"
Yeah both Hudds and Saints fans have said that about Leeds the last 2 weeks.
And it's a Grand Final, no such thing as all the pressure solely on just one team.
Could easily say that because we've already won the LLS and the CC that if we do lose at least we've got somethings to show for our season. A loss for Wigan and they'll have nothing to show for the second season in a row.
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| They lost Delaney last night and Stevie Ward is done for months.
Saying that they still have some depth because even though they've got a superstar backline and two club legends they can carry depth because the majority play for 'the love of the club' and not big wages.
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| Thats correct Nicky just the same as Sam
Oh sorry hang on a second is he coming back as a failure or just for money (or both reasons maybe)
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"Thats correct Nicky just the same as Sam
Oh sorry hang on a second is he coming back as a failure or just for money (or both reasons maybe)'"
At least Sam Tomkins had the guts to go and give it a shot.
Hall, Watkins, Briscoe and even the older guard like Sinfield and Peacock I'm sure have had the chance to go and prove their worth against the best but either they're in a comfort zone and fear failure or they're being paid very very handsomely. I respect them all as players and characters so I think I know which it is.
How are Leeds keeping Hardaker, Briscoe, Watkins, Moon, Hall, McGuire, Sinfield, Peacock, Burrow, Cuthbertson and Leuluai under a 1.8m salary cap? That's 11 players that I imagine command close to that on their own and you also have another 14 players in your squad to pay.
Can you work it out? Me neither.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"At least Sam Tomkins had the guts to go and give it a shot.
Hall, Watkins, Briscoe and even the older guard like Sinfield and Peacock I'm sure have had the chance to go and prove their worth against the best but either they're in a comfort zone and fear failure or they're being paid very very handsomely. I respect them all as players and characters so I think I know which it is.
How are Leeds keeping Hardaker, Briscoe, Watkins, Moon, Hall, McGuire, Sinfield, Peacock, Burrow, Cuthbertson and Leuluai under a 1.8m salary cap? That's 11 players that I imagine command close to that on their own and you also have another 14 players in your squad to pay.
Can you work it out? Me neither.'"
And is Leeds the only club you cannot work out?
One thing you can say for Leeds is we haven't had an overseas half back that command a big salary. Burns and Walsh at Saints, Sandow at Wire - Mega bucks. That is what maybe sets us apart.
Leeds finally get a quality 9, something we've lacked for years, then Catalans ( Yes, ahem Justin Carney, plus many other quality Aussie imports that won't be playing for peanuts) come knocking offering 3x as much as what he is on at Leeds
Aiton himself has openly admitted that it's a money move. That puts your theory of dodgy shinanigans to bed. Unlike a previous Wigan regime of course...pretty rich.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"At least Sam Tomkins had the guts to go and give it a shot.
Hall, Watkins, Briscoe and even the older guard like Sinfield and Peacock I'm sure have had the chance to go and prove their worth against the best but either they're in a comfort zone and fear failure or they're being paid very very handsomely. I respect them all as players and characters so I think I know which it is.
How are Leeds keeping Hardaker, Briscoe, Watkins, Moon, Hall, McGuire, Sinfield, Peacock, Burrow, Cuthbertson and Leuluai under a 1.8m salary cap? That's 11 players that I imagine command close to that on their own and you also have another 14 players in your squad to pay.
Can you work it out? Me neither.'"
That's one of the dafter posts I've ever read on rlfans.
Kylie will never have been on a particularly high wage. Cuthbo also only came in as a decent, not star, NRL signing
McGuire, Sinfield, Peacock and Burrow all peaked a few years back and over the last few years have traded a higher salary for longer deals
At the same time Hardaker, Briscoe, Watkins, Moon, Hall, etc will have seen their salaries climb in the opposite direction.
That's just basic cap management.
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