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| Quote ="MattyB"I think the more UK (wouldn't restrict it to just Wigan - ala Mossop/Cumbria) players we have in our squad of 30 the better. I just think we should always have room for 3-4 "QUALITY" imports to complement them. I still think we have too many imports (currently 7), we should have 3 or 4.
By having only 3 or 4 we could perhaps recruit of a slightly higher standard than the 7. At the same time allowing three additional UK players to develop in the first team squad.'"
I'd go with that and lets not forget if we could recruit real quality they do put bums on seats and excite the fans more than a team of all UK players would. Harsh on the UK players but that is just the way it is. I am sure there is more interest in Aus in the odd UK player who goes down under these days than your average NRL player.
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| Much of it is down to the individual, look at Dean Bell an overseas player but nobody could ever question his commitment & loyalty to the Wigan club.
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| Quote ="Bergen Bulldog"Much of it is down to the individual, look at Dean Bell an overseas player but nobody could ever question his commitment & loyalty to the Wigan club.'"
Exactly, but I think the investment of the SC should be in the home grown system first. A Dean Bell is VERY hard to find. Plus his stint at Wigan was pre-cap.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Going forward i'd like to think we'll keep a good working relationship with Maguire and use his hands of knowledge in the NRL when choosing which players to sign.
Having that kind of guy on hand to give some advice can only be a positive thing.'"
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| I agree that it should not be restricted to Wiganers, any British Player should be looked at especially at the youth stage. There is nothing wrong with overseas players or managers as long as they are New Zealanders who never let you down, think of all the great Kiwis that have played for us. When I started supporting Wigan in the 1940s, the team was all born within 10 miles of Wigan plus 2 Kiwis, Cec Mountford and Brian Nordgen and we were world beaters.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Easy.
Steve Renouf
Mark Riddell
Trent Barrett
Adrian Lamb
Amos Roberts
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Now lets look at the top Aus players, Billy Slater, Cam Smith, Greg Inglis Jarryd Hayne, do you think any of them would come to play SL? No. They only come over when around 30 for a big contract at the back end of their careers. I.e Fitzgibbon. Mason etc.
Why back these in place of some fantastic home grown products? I wouldn't. The majority of our improves of recent years haven't paid off.
I'd sooner put the cap back into the system and develop from within. Here you'l get a player who will play for the shirt and not leave early to return to Aus.
I'd sooner invest in a team featuring wigan or wigan trained lads.
Tomkins x3
Mossop
Tuson
Prescott
McM
Faz
Lockers
Hock
Charnley
Marsh
King
Russell
Crosby
These are the future.
PS, How old was Miles when he came over? How long did Kenny and Ferguson stay around for? Sorry pal, I'd take Shaun Edwards and his career over them any day.'"
Crazy, when we signed Lam that season he was MOM for queensland as he hammered NSW. As for Renouf, was one of the ebst centres we ever had...look at how many he and his winger scored.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Exactly, but I think the investment of the SC should be in the home grown system first. A Dean Bell is VERY hard to find. Plus his stint at Wigan was pre-cap.'"
what about the like of Brett Dallas then?
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"what about the like of Brett Dallas then?'"
What about the likes of Andrew Farrar? We could both pick examples of either point all day. Like I said, I'd sooner back Wigan talent.
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| Quote ="Pieman"Crazy, when we signed Lam that season he was MOM for queensland as he hammered NSW. As for Renouf, was one of the ebst centres we ever had...look at how many he and his winger scored.'"
Renouf was at the end of his career when he came to us. Proves my point. You can get top talent from the UK in their prime, just not top talent in their prime from Aus.
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| I would take players like george carmont and paaaaaat richards every day orf the week.
Anyway, back on topic, GIVE WANE THE GIG
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Exactly, imports and poor management of the SC led to our demise during a poor era.'"
Nowt to do with imports per se. It was poor management of the club right across the board that was the problem.
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| I don't care if they come from Wigan, Wollongong, Widnes or Wellington.
I just want the best that we can afford under the systems that are in place.
If they are Wigan lads, so much the better, but if they are not then so be it.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Going forward i'd like to think we'll keep a good working relationship with Maguire and use his hands of knowledge in the NRL when choosing which players to sign.
Having that kind of guy on hand to give some advice can only be a positive thing.'"
True but IL also has another close friend who he looks to for advice in Australia - Tony Rae, ex-Harlequins coach.
It was Rae who advised IL about approaching Maguire.
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| Quote ="dany1979"True but IL also has another close friend who he looks to for advice in Australia - Tony Rae, ex-Harlequins coach.
It was Rae who advised IL about approaching Maguire.'"
Fair enough and having both can't hurt.
We've got a young squad with some experienced heads in it and a couple of them will need replacing soon and we could do with some sound advice when looking to replace them from down under.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Renouf was at the end of his career when he came to us. Proves my point. You can get top talent from the UK in their prime, just not top talent in their prime from Aus.'"
Dallas, Richards, Lyon, Monaghan x 2, King, Perry, Hoffman, Ryles, Greenshields, ...None are/were passed their prime when signed.
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| Quote ="Pieman"Dallas, Richards, Lyon, Monaghan x 2, King, Perry, Hoffman, Ryles, Greenshields, ...None are/were passed their prime when signed.'"
Well that's up to you. Just compare them tothe likes of Edwards Andy Faz Gaz Hock Phil Clarke Jason Robinson (came into our system from Leeds) Martin Dermott Sam Tomkins Lockers to name a few. All outstanding in their positions all know what it means to play for Wigan.
And that's just at Wigan you're now looking for examples from other teams
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| daniel anderson..................................................
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| Quote ="sir steve menzies"daniel anderson..................................................'"
no, id take tim sheens though, although i doubt he would come to the UK , he doesnt rate our league at all
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| Quote ="shambawangy"no, id take tim sheens though, although i doubt he would come to the UK , he doesnt rate our league at all'"
I think Sheens is a bit of a t1t tbh. No doubting his credentials mind you.
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| Wane in charge with Hanley as his number 2.
Hanley has said on his facebook "has signed the deal... No going back now!"
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"Wane in charge with Hanley as his number 2.
Hanley has said on his facebook "has signed the deal... No going back now!"'"
Maybe he has just bought a new sofa?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I don't care if they come from Wigan, Wollongong, Widnes or Wellington.
I just want the best that we can afford under the systems that are in place.
If they are Wigan lads, so much the better, but if they are not then so be it.'"
Exactly.
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| You know what I like the idea of Hanley as a number 2.
It COULD work if he leaves his ego in check and knows Wane is the man in charge.
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| New song if/when Waney gets the gig?
"It's Wayne's World, it's Wayne's World
It's party time, it's excellent
It's Wayne's World, it's Wayne's World
It's party time, it's excellent."
[urlhttp://youtu.be/4Manzr3iuq0Lyrics[/url
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| sheeno is going no where as marshall has comitted for another 4 or 5 years
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