What on Earth do people expect. You bring in London standard players to direct the team and you get London standard results. Yes im talking about Sammut. He should be nowhere near this team especially playing such a crucial position and he is not alone but just one example of the apparent mismanagement of the playing staff by those in charge. Either Tommy is up to the job or he isnt. If hes not, you retire him and bring in somebody who is. You dont keep a Tommy thats not up to the job and then add another player who isnt up to the job and end up with two that are not up to the job. Its madness.

Just seen the result. very VERY surprised at that.

I wasn’t surprised. I was just hopeful.

At this rate it will be a relegation dog fight between Wigan, Leeds and Huddersfield.

If the appeal fails (which is highly likely) and we turn out like today again, we will be holding up SL around 10pm Friday evening. A lot of worrying signs today that cannot be put down to the usual excuses.

Relegation 4 pointer on Friday.

6 pointer if you don't get those cheat points back.

Lam needs to take a fair share of the blame for that. He lost Greenwood, Faz and Hamlin due to injury and still decided to rest Flower despite the fact Clubb, Tautai and Isa are off form and Bullock doesn’t appear to be able to last 15 minutes.

Playing Escare was stupid as well. You don’t give players a game in an injury hit side. He’s not as good a winger as Marshall so playing him out of position when the side is already disrupted just to give him a game was stupid.

He selected his team as if nothing was wrong. We often talk about players disrespecting the opposition but Lam did that today.

Marshall was unavailable due to illness. I would have played Mullen there instead of Escare.

He selected a team as if it was a run in we disrespected London and got what we deserved .

Regards EW

I went, and it was abysmal. Going 10-0 up early on led us to believe it could be an easy stroll in the park. Wow, was we wrong ? at no point in the following 60-65 minutes did we remotely look the better team. We were out enthused by an honest London side. Fair play to them, they deserved it.

I don't know where we go from here, if Shaun Edwards has anything about him, he will stick with Rugby Union and make his money, rather than try and send a team out that is in decline, with no good news on the horizon. I would love to be proven wrong, but coming off the ground today, all I heard were Wigan fans saying the same, how poor and outplayed we were.

If Marshall was I’ll then yes I’d have gone for Mullen on the wing

And if we had still lost, everybody would of said he should of played Escare on the wing 'because he is fast'.

I’ll not disagree with you on that

Nothing to do with Lam. Most of the changes were forced. If we cant rest Flower against London when we have 4 first team props available then something is seriously wrong with the other 3 props.

I went - we were absolute rubbish. Not a single player can hold their head up after that. Sure, the weather conditions and the surface gave the Broncos a bit of a lift, but it was the reigning champions taking on a side that somehow scraped promotion from 5th place in the super 8s. Even with the surface, conditions etc we should have had enough in the tank to win the game.

The last two games have been very worrying, losing to sides who we really should have been beating by 20+. Mind you, didn't we have a poor run the last time we played a WCC? It seems that we take that game more seriously than we do the games that give you the opportunity to play for a WCC.

We don't seem to win games on a Sunday we seem to lose more than we win and this has gone on for years perhaps Bilko can give us some facts on this.

Maybe like me ? I like to go down the pub with my mates on Saturday.

That was a long day and a long way to go to be served up that garbage.

We were clueless in attack and feeble in defence.

Well done to London who just did the basics, nothing more, and that killed us.

We seem to have lost any semblance of team spirit. Nobody talking behind the posts, nobody leading us on the field (certainly not GW or Sammut who SHOULD be leading the team).

I know it's early, but it's been 5 games and I am starting to agree with the ethos that "If you buy Championship players, you play Championship rugby".

4 games, no points (I'm not hopeful of getting the "missing" 2 points back, but they shouldn't be *this* important).

That game felt like a step back to September 2017 against Wakefield, and I don't see how/where we improve.

I just hope that Lam has some kind of plan for how we move forward from this.

Nope. You’ll see I’m far from a rose tinted glasses wearer from my posts. I don’t buy into the crisis frenzy some will have you believe we’re experiencing. March means the square root of jack all, as long as we’re there or there abouts (6th upwards) at the back end of July I’ll be happy enough.

Said this about Sammutt from the day we wasted the money in signing him. A poor, and proven to be poor, SL player.

TL needed to have been replaced at the end of last season. He simply isn’t good enough anymore in any capacity.

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pillock

Looking at the highlights, Lam had every right to be annoyed with Escare for that dropped ball because he tried a one arm catch. Two arms and he's in.

The only problem with this is that every single player made errors during the game. Before this one, Escare also knocked on when playing the ball and London scored from that error which was just as critical to the defeat.

Lam was right, Escare messed up but he needs to be a bit careful to single him out for criticism. I remember Shaun Wane singling out Charnley for public criticism and his confidence was rocked for months afterwards. Escare was probably guilty of trying too hard if anything and with Manfredi fit again and Burgess just a couple of weeks away, he’s really going to struggle to stay in the 17.