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| Quote ="JohnP"Bearing in mind it's the match clock, and the coaching staff can see it, why would they be using a different timing anyway?'"
In case it stops working. Two recent games at the DW I've been doing radio commentary on, the clock hasn't been working full stop. The Bradford game being one of them. So they'd need to have some clue of the timing themselves.
For reference the Wigan coaching staff are generally stood on the tv gantry. The time keepers are generally on the back row of the press box, which is in front of the west stand directors box.
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"dont the rules say ..the referee is the sole timekeeper?..therefore the clock operators would in effect be over ruling him?'"
Which implies Childs was at fault if the time keepers were waiting for him to start the clock.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Which implies Childs was at fault if the time keepers were waiting for him to start the clock.'"
That might have been the case when they had club volunteers (one from each club wasn't it?) doing the timekeeping. But its a solo person doing it now appointed by the RFL. Gerry Kershaw was tonights time keeper at Wigan. Common sense should of prevailed IF Child hadn't restarted the clock surely?
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| Quote ="Bilko"That might have been the case when they had club volunteers (one from each club wasn't it?) doing the timekeeping. But its a solo person doing it now appointed by the RFL. Gerry Kershaw was tonights time keeper at Wigan. Common sense should of prevailed IF Child hadn't restarted the clock surely?'"
Good question but one that leads to several others. What does common sense mean for a start! A full set of six on a stopped clock would imply a total lack if it.
The next question is, if the ref forgets to start the clock when should the timekeeper start it? It shouldnot be his responsibility IMO.
Why don't we have a 3rd ref in the stands in the on-field refs ear saying you forget to start the clock?
As an aside this is not the first non-sky match I have been to that the west stand clock has stopped working.
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| Overall it is just poor for the game. It's a shame that we're having to talk about it and not just focus on a very entertaining game from some talented youngsters. Incidentally, who put the huge bomb up that led to our try? It was an absolute corker! Up there with brough for that particular effort IMO. More of that please.
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| Of course there is human error, but I'd have thought the system should be almost fool proof (biting my tongue). Imagine if that was a semi-final. I know it'd be on the sky clock but surely the system is the same?
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| Quote ="Loyal o'riley"Overall it is just poor for the game. It's a shame that we're having to talk about it and not just focus on a very entertaining game from some talented youngsters. Incidentally, who put the huge bomb up that led to our try? It was an absolute corker! Up there with brough for that particular effort IMO. More of that please.'"
Pretty sure it was Hampshire. He kicked the 40/20 too.
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| Powell kicked the 40/20
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| For future reference, where is the clock? I could only see the one on the main scoreboard with the actual time on it
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| Quote ="Chris28"For future reference, where is the clock? I could only see the one on the main scoreboard with the actual time on it'"
In a really stupid place but I am saying that from an away fans point of view as you have to run down to the front row of the stand to have any chance to see it.
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| It's slightly angled so the press box can see it so not sure it can be seen from the away end?
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| Quote ="Bilko"It's slightly angled so the press box can see it so not sure it can be seen from the away end?'"
I can't.
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| What a ridiculous thing to happen in a Top Flight 'Professional' game. This sounds like something that would happen in an amateur game. I didn't watch the game, but I feel for Wigan if this had any bearing on the smallest of defeats.
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| Quote ="Tommy2Subs"I can't.'"
Didn't think so. It's up on the tv gantry on the north end of the main stand. But like I said it's angled towards so the press box and home end can see it rather than away fans.
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| Quote ="DaveO"I think we knocked on while scoring and so I think that was a correct call. The penalty for not square was wrong and they scored soon after. Idiotic decision from Childs. You have to play the ball when tackled and the Hull player did. No one there and we get penalised. It should have been play on. Game changer IMO.
I thought Hull took exception to Andy Powell merely being on the pitch but maybe that is no bad thing.'"
I dont know what you mean by that? Did he get targetted?
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| Child has admitted on twitter that he got the call wrong for the charge down for Powells attempted drop goal.
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RT @Bullymiggy Wig v hull wigan drop goal hull charged down clearly came off hull player ball went dead 20 meter restart given ?
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.@Bullymiggy It did but In live play we felt he was shielding himself so not playing at it. On review he probably does play at it. JC
That's the second time we have had referees admit they got it wrong. They agreed that the pass from Luke Robinson for Brett Ferress try should have been called forward.
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"I dont know what you mean by that? Did he get targetted?'"
They gave him a lot of attention. Seemed a bit of a throw back to the days of welcoming the Union convert with a few hard hits and they seemed distracted by it.
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| The RFL twitter get asked about the clock being stopped for so long?
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"The RFL twitter get asked about the clock being stopped for so long?'"
Yes I asked but got no answer.
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| Mention Child and "9 Bob Note" springs to mind
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| Quote ="Mash Butty"Mention Child and "9 Bob Note" springs to mind'"
Gerry Kershaw was the time keeper.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Gerry Kershaw was the time keeper.'"
And he hasn't got a gig this weekend.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And he hasn't got a gig this weekend.
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He's been in the game forever and a day has Gerry, annoying as it is, it was just one of those things
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Child has admitted on twitter that he got the call wrong for the charge down for Powells attempted drop goal.
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RT @Bullymiggy Wig v hull wigan drop goal hull charged down clearly came off hull player ball went dead 20 meter restart given ?
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.@Bullymiggy It did but In live play we felt he was shielding himself so not playing at it. On review he probably does play at it. JC
That's the second time we have had referees admit they got it wrong. They agreed that the pass from Luke Robinson for Brett Ferress try should have been called forward.'"
Who wouldn't play at an attempted drop goal to win the game with a minute left? Strange interpretation.
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