The RL authorities should be ashamed of themselves. Its been obvious for years that the game has been failing to achieve financial stability, let alone growth and that the structures and management of the SL are not fit for purpose.

Bradford have finished something like 14 times above Hudds c/w 3 to Hudds in the SL era & get double HUdds crowds. Presumably you mean Hudds have been the better side over the previous 3 years as that suits your argument? Hudds only manage thanks to Davy's generosity (& long may that continue). They are no different to over half of SL clubs, or most pro sports clubs, in that respect. Only Leeds seem to manage & grow without a benefactor. Lets get rid of Saints as well as they lost a million the previous season.

I'll take your £50 bet if you take mine, Wire will finish above Salford.

I don't think 10 teams would work with the current format, just increasing the amount of times teams play each other would risk making the events stale & lead to lower attendances. I think it could work if there was an expanded world club challenge involving French clubs. But that is a while off without massive investment in the French game, commitment from Aus, & funding from TV. Chicken & egg. Your 10 game suggestion would need Sky approval, otherwise we would be fecked. It works in yawnion & cricket where the leagues are now secondary to European & limited over competitions, but they have the internationals to fund expansion.

And your credible solutions to the problems? It's easy & fashionable to make extreme statements, but, contrary to belief, there have been some decent talent on board with the RFL. Lindsay, Watkins, Waite, Walker, Lewis, Edwards are not stupid people & have struggled to make RL sustainable. No different from all major sports. Without huge TV revenue we are limited to what we can do. I am not a fan of Wood, but that is largely due to the image of a fat, stereotypical northerner he portrays to the media. What I would do different is for the RFL to take control of RL in London & direct development there, if the amateurish attempts there are to be believed.

Average wage of a newly qualified nurse is £21000 so nearer 40 than 25. Sorry for being pedantic! To$$er

I'm talking about the present day, realistically Huddersfield's on field prospects are better than Bradford's, surely you agree with that? Don't understand the rlevance of your Warrington-Salford bet :s I think there are a lot of stale events anyway, when we play Salford, Wakefield etc it's pretty damn boring. I'd rather play 3 close games against Leeds that 2 plus a drubbing against Salford.

Back to Salford; easy way to cut running costs would be to not bother running an Academy team.

Can't see Wigan wanting any of their young lads any where near the set-up at Salford. Powell and Murphy to follow the route of Mellor and Marsh.

And that old boy gets us back to the old chestnut of sides at the bottom living off the good work put in by the bigger clubs.....

Says in the paper that they will have a reply fron the council by Tuesday if there go in to liquidation.

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If you're going to call someone a to$$er (which, by the way, I wouldn't advise unless you don't want to post here again) it's better to know the facts. The cost of a nurse is not just their salary, it would also include employers National Insurance and pension which is likely to take it to over £25k. Which would be about 30, which last time I looked was nearer to 25 than 40.

They have recently announced a player link up with Oldham. What the hell will Oldham will get out of this?

Would anybody miss Salford, honestly?

Apart from tradition and a now barely noticeable presence in Manchester, they don't offer much for me.

In fact it would be a breath of fresh air for me personally. Give a Super League opportunity to a club showing potential plus a new strategy to push Rugby League in Manchester which quite frankly, Salford could have been getting in the way of with others feeling at risk treading on their toes.

Harsh but not worth the effort saving in my opinion.

It was said a few weeks ago that Powell and Murphy would be going to Salford on loan next season,since then Shaun Wane has said that he wants both of the young lads to complete a full pre-season before any decesion is made. It seems that both of them have been taken on the trip to Florida.
You can look at this in a couple of ways,he is either waiting for the outcome of the Salford situation, or it would confirm that Wigan do not expect to bring anyone else in and they are both needed for first team cover (especially Powell).

Except it isnt a financial bailout, and it says as much,

That is more to do with the huge amount of development work that Quins/London Broncos were doing in the south, it was the RFL taking on some more of those facilities rather than a big cash payout.

I'd agree, if we had some of these.

Sadly, outside of Toulouse and some small hints at Sheffield, there isnt any club banging on the door of SL right now.

Councils don't pay for nurses anyway so I'm not sure what everyone's arguing about...

I know. The poster had already got on their high horse and became abusive when getting one simple thing wrong themselves. Lets not confuse them further by adding some new facts.

they said they were helping out with a support package which included help in the office and [ufinancial support[/u. Sounds like cash to me

Extreme statements???

high horse!! bit of a swing and a miss on the original post though don't you think??

No, but they do pay plenty of other people's wages (my wife included, in Salford CC's case).

They are laying people off left, right and centre and their own staff are already pee'd off that they are even considering giving the reds money.

Salford CIty Council refuse £750,000 lifeline to City Reds, stating too big a risk.
Where does this leave Salford Rugby now?

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I can't see this as anything but short-sighted. Not only will it likely send them bust, but Sale won't be able to run that stadium on their own, and any leisure or additional retail development on that side of Barton bridge will surely come to a grinding halt too. Perhaps they're just more interested in the wendyballers down the road??

Having said that, I think it [i:23uxd0j3was [/i:23uxd0j3a mistake to move so far from Weaste, anyone know what their attendances before & after the move were?

[edit: i sit corrected, their avg attendance actually went up 16% between 2011 & 12

You could be playing Fev at the iconic POR in Feb instead of us.

RFL needs a major overhaul.

To realise the value in any business you need to understand your strengths and sell them to the marketplace. We seem to have a policy of ignoring our strengths, indeed we often seem embarassed by them, in favour of pipedreams that cannot succeed.

We have a great product and a customer base greater than Wales, Scotland or Ireland to sell it to, indeed the greater heartlands are as big as all three combined.

Sorry CPM I think that your post is complete and utter nonsense from start to finish. What has Salford's situation and specifically their relationship with the City Council got to do wth "wendyballers down the road"? Totally unconnected.

Sale might in the short term offer salvation from a stadium viability veiw point, better to have one paying tenant rather than none. Two would obviously be ideal generating year round income.

Peel's aspirations for this area will not be halted as the opportunity to develop along the Ship Canal from Salford Quays to Liverpool of which this site is a small part can't be tied to the (mis)fortunes of Salford City Reds.

It would be interesting to know how the increase in attendance was achieved before stating whether it was bizarre or not? A large proportion of away fans adding a new ground to their list, unsubstainable promotional offers to home supporters to soften the blow of a move from Weaste might affect any business plan going forward?

BTW I take no delight in the situation at Salford