It helps but Noble can't be a fortune teller can he.

It's boound to happen from time to time where Feka comes on and is going to have to put a good defensive shift in.

He should be able to add 'impact' on that side of the game aswell imo.

Shaun Edwards , Andy Gregory , Billy Boston , Dean Bell , Andy Farrell .
These are Wigan legends not some overweight battering ram

This 100%

He played standard last night barr the offloads what he should be doing all the time, the way he brings in 3-4 players he really needs to work on his ball work and play kind of like graham

Spot on Jonh

The over reaction to Feka last week was a joke

It was nice to see him p122 all over the Wire goons, but I don't see how he qualified for Man of the Match. For me that was either Sam, Phelpsy or Carmont.

Agreed.

The difference was that he put in some effort last night, we now need that effort put into every game and his fitness work and he might just be alright come contract renewal time.

No it wasn't! Feka's form has been poor for a while now, last week was just the last straw. Just because he is a fans favourite doesnt mean we should tolerate mediocre performances. We don't from Bailey, Fielden, Lockers or from when we had Mathers so why should we from the big fella???

His acceleration to run down Vinnie Anderson when he got the intercept was pretty amazing.

Had an argument on the VT with a Huddersfield fan when i said we had pretty fast props by normal standards.

He pis*ed himself when i said Feka and Coley were 'fast props'.

Looks like i was right.

get rid of him. unfortunately it is sporadic performances like these which are mostly remembered and not the 10 or so games preceding it. not good enough in my opinion

Carvell is what I call a fast prop. Coley is pretty quick when chasing someone down but when running at the line him and Prescott look like old people out for a jog down the road.

Feka has chased people down quite a few times.

The best chase by a prop though has got to be Craig Smith, I think it was against Leeds? At the JJB a few years ago... excellent!

Perhaps it was the sponsor's idea of a good wind up to the Wire fans?

My MOM was Phelps.

Was that the one when they were on the break and he managed to get the ball back one on one ? If it was it was outstanding

Think it was against Hull and Smith caught their winger just short of the line. Briscoe (IIRC) scored on the next play though.

Vinnie 5h!t a Brick when he saw Feka charging him down

He didn`t seem to want to mix it up with Feka, he only does that with players smaller than him

Any coach worth his weight in salt must be able to see that the conditioning at the club is absolute crap and the effect it’s having on his job.

Get Feka trimmed down to the size he was when he first joined, get Fielden bulked up like he was in his Bradford days and also get Riddell a little bit more fit.

I know Riddell has been playing very well recently and he’ll never have the physique of say Buderus or Cameron Smith but I still think his game would improve even more with a little bit of weight being shed.

It would almost be like having three new players at the club if we could get a little more out of them.

Feka was decent Friday - not bad but not special. Awarding him MOM? That really was laughable. Nowhere near MOM!

I can't believe that anyone who saw any Wigan forward of the great trophy winning teams can think its acceptable to have a fat knacker like that in a Wigan shirt.

If he's good enough for Wigan, then get used to winning nothing every season.

An outside opinion of Feka:

He can be devastating going forward. This is mainly due to his size and he needs to retain that to be effective. He doesn't need turning into a defence machine. Wigan have enough of those. The more weight he loses maybe the better his defence and game time will be but he'd also be less of an impact!

Yes his defence can be suspect but thats not what he's there for is it? He's an offensive weapon............a bloody good one at that and from what I've seen his defence isn't that bad. There were more to blame than him during that "Warrington purple patch"

He can be a game turner, a match winner and he's pretty unique, teams need players like that.

I think the key is that he needs to be used carefully and sensibly from the bench. I'm not suggesting I would know how to do that but a good coach like Noble should.

Very often substitutions amongst the forwards come and go pretty much unnoticed............not when Feka comes on! Any opposition fan will tell you if they're honest that his introduction makes them edgy!

He will always have his critics just like Kevin Penny has but potential game breakers and characters like that are few and far between and would get my backing anytime!

I think that is a very accurate unbiased assessment.
As I have said repeatedly with regard to the semi final, it was the timing of the substitution that was wrong.

A point brought up by IL in a 'discussion' with Noble in the dressing room after the game I hear.

Pretty Good Post that!



And IMO he is the best at what he does i.e Impact Forward/Gamebreaker etc in SL ATM.

I liked Jonh's comments earlier and agree he has certainly had far more Very good games than Bad ones.

As for his game time, ask Leeds what they get out of Leuilia, Wire out of Rahiuhi (Have a look at his contribution for the past 2 x weeks!) Saints out of Mary!!!!!!!!! etc etc.

He has regularly been doing 40 mins + this season (Didnt he do nearly 60 at Saints???) and as far as I can make out if you have 4 x props then shouldn't they be doing roughly 40 mins each??????

We need to talk.