Shame kept dropping the ball again though, isnt it?

Clearly though, you wouldn't have said that if you didn't know who made the decision, so your opinion is null and void, obviously.

Timmy's problem is simple. Wigan fans make their mind up on a player on his debut. If you're crap then you're crap for life. If you're an Aussie and crao on debut then you've no chance.

Piggy threw a bad ball in the second half and some clown told him to go home and lets throw the youngsters in.



He also seemed to have an agenda against Roberts who is apparently 'a waste of space'. Had it been Ainscough who missed the tackle or allowed the chip to go over his head (quality attacking play I thought) i'm sure it would have been fine.

Also no groans, moans or beratings when Sam knocked on and yet a few when Phelps did

Funny, I thought that the idea of forums was to give opinion, which I did so what's the problem?

Exactly. Tim Smith has the ability to be a very good player for us and today IMO he looked the busiest of the team, really wanting to impress. His defence improved although against weaker opposition.

No one's disputing that, but your opinion is supposed to be based on what you actually think, not based on knowledge that a decision has been made by a particular person.

What I actually think is like I said before, he had a decent game but nothing that would make him be MOM in the slightest.

My MOM today would have been Hock, but on another topic his name has not been mentioned at all. Shows what I know

The reason he got MOM was because out of all the players who were on the pitch for the majority of the time, he didn't make any f*ck ups, like most of the other players did.

Everyone else was either absent for most of it, or kept dropping the ball/making stupid errors.

Stop trying to justify a ridiculous decision!

Smith didnt do much wrong today but the MOTM decision was ridiculous.

I don't need to. I paid for the privilege. He who pays the piper calls the tune, right?

Sod paying to pick MOM, buy us a win!



(Against Saints at KR)

i thought his kicking game was the key today in smiths performance, he found touch on several occasions and kept turning celtic around and in them conditions he executed his kicks perfectly.

some of his passes, i made a comment to my mate that when smith is on our attack seems to flow more, and he dummied me at one point where amos scored, i didnt have a clue where the ball was until roberts got it because smithy confused me!

Same. I actually groaned at that, because I thought he'd done a typical Wigan thing, got his speed up and then offloaded to someone standing still. Turns out he didn't.

Seems like Tim Smith can do nothing right with some people - his range of passing today offered Wigan a different dimension in attack actually guiding players through gaps (I'd forgotten what that was like since Barrett left) and his kicking game wasn't half bad either.

If he can repeat the performance against a better side and leave the turnstile defence at home then I will be more than happy.

Likewise - I thought he'd dropped someone off who was running straight at a defender. It was a great bit of half-back play.

Well he's in the majority of selections of the 'Wigan's best' thread so it can't be that ridiculous.

Same here. Lets just hope that he is not just a flat track bully.

Theres no doubt in my mind that Smith with ball in hand is the best in the league

We just need his mind on the job and his defence sorted

I thought Smith looked like a much improved player. His defence on his own looked a bit better but I thought that him being between Gleeson and OLoughlin helped him greatly.

Even though he played next to Bailey when he was at centre previously, Gleeson has the advantage of being able to position himself very well from lots of experience at Centre and very rarely left Smith stranded.

If that style of protecting continues Smith can be a very good attacking threat along side Tomkins (Who I noticed seemed to impose himself more on the game today, maybe more freedom alongside Smith??).

That way we have Smith and Tomkins as very creative Halfbacks and Leuluai and Piggy (who looks to be settling more now) in Dummy Half.

He can't make a break. Of course his hands are good but he needs another dimension in his game to keep the opposition guessing. Add to that he is Wigan's worst tackler. He is very good at pointing, though.

What do people think about the team next week? Do you think Nobby can drop Smith?

I think if he is picking players on their last game, he has to remain in the team. The only change i would make is drop Phelps, with Richards to full back and Ainscough coming back in on the wing.

I dont think he needs to take on the line alot to be honest. We saw today how dangerous Tomkins is as a runner and his style can complement Smiths distributing and organising.

Agreed.

Same 17 injuries permitting (think Ainscough will have to come in for Pat though)