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| Quote ="DaveO"Noble [iwas[/i one of the most successful coaches. Past tense. Games aren't won on paper either. I'd swap Noble for Edwards in a heart beat.
It's over two seasons of dross not two games. I am rapidly coming to the opinion any other coach in SL or NL1 could get us playing better RL with the team we have got. If we don't show more than one man RL this Friday then regardless of the result it won't be good enough IMO.
Doubt we could get Edwards if Noble went at this time but I would think if he did come we would see an instant change in the style of play and isn't that what is required? Results would then follow IMO.
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That's just silly.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"That's just silly.'"
are you serious....how is that silly??!?! I think if the majority of wigan fans (inc. leneghan) thought we could actually get edwards at this moment in time noble would be out before you could say Shaun Edwards!!
Edwards was a playing visionary, and has taken his knowledge of the game of rugby to further levels in rugby union, he has 1000 times more ideas than noble, is a top class motivator, and a true disiplinarian.....
I dont buy all this cr@p that he hasnt coached RL so would struggle.....coaching RL would be a doddle for him now, which he would excell at!! Hes one of the top RU coaches, despite it being a foreign discipline and a code of rugby he didnt even understand 10 years ago!!....if he were to come back to RL he could be a top 5 coach in his sleep!!
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I had to laugh last night when one of the Welsh players was being interviewed.
Interviewer " There's a lot of singing coming from your dressing room"
Welsh player "It's the old Shaun Edwards classic, Saturday Night at the Movies"
It took me back to the Challenge Cup homecomings at Central Park.'"
i saw that after the match itself and im sure he said its an old wigan classic, not shaun edwards classic. could be wrong tho
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| There's no relegation so we have nothing to lose if a new coach came in. Since Millward came in I haven't seen half as much of the good attacking rugby we used to play at the JJB!
BRING BACK EDWARDS, GET SOME OFFENSIVE MOVES!
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| Quote ="andyed-wiganrl"are you serious....how is that silly??!?! I think if the majority of wigan fans (inc. leneghan) thought we could actually get edwards at this moment in time noble would be out before you could say Shaun Edwards!!
Edwards was a playing visionary, and has taken his knowledge of the game of rugby to further levels in rugby union, he has 1000 times more ideas than noble, is a top class motivator, and a true disiplinarian.....
I dont buy all this cr@p that he hasnt coached RL so would struggle.....coaching RL would be a doddle for him now, which he would excell at!! Hes one of the top RU coaches, despite it being a foreign discipline and a code of rugby he didnt even understand 10 years ago!!....if he were to come back to RL he could be a top 5 coach in his sleep!!'"
Firstly from what I have heard, IL isn't the greatest judge of RL talent.........
Secondly, Edwards is untried as an RL coach. I'm not saying he would fail, in fact I personally think he would bring a lot to the table.
What I am saying is that to gamble on him vs the most successful coach in the history of SL is madness.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Firstly from what I have heard, IL isn't the greatest judge of RL talent.........
Secondly, Edwards is untried as an RL coach. I'm not saying he would fail, in fact I personally think he would bring a lot to the table.
What I am saying is that to gamble on him vs the most successful coach in the history of SL is madness.'"
Lose on Friday and we may as well gamble a chimpanzee against Noble for the rest of the season.
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| Quote ="andyed-wiganrl" despite it being a foreign discipline and a code of rugby he didnt even understand 10 years ago!!'"
Didn't he play for England as a junior?
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| Quote ="Morning Glory"Didn't he play for England as a junior?'"
Yeah, he captained both England Rugby League and Union schoolboys.
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| Quote ="Morning Glory"Didn't he play for England as a junior?'"
Yes he captained England at junior level in RU as well as captaining GB at junior level in RL.
However are you suggesting RU isn't a foreign code to him because he played the game before he signed for Wigan aged 17 and so his knowledge of RU from about 25 years ago is relevant to his current job in RU?
If so I am sure his RL knowledge picked up about the same time would make the transition back again seamless
Dave
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| Don't get me wrong, I think Edwards will make a great RL coach (probably).
I also think that:
a. He is unlikely to do it
b. Coming back NOW to coach Wigan would be a mistake
c. He would not be better than Noble at this moment in time for Wigan.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Don't get me wrong, I think Edwards will make a great RL coach (probably).
I also think that:
a. He is unlikely to do it
b. Coming back NOW to coach Wigan would be a mistake
c. He would not be better than Noble at this moment in time for Wigan.'"
Exactly.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Don't get me wrong, I think Edwards will make a great RL coach (probably).
I also think that:'"
Quote ="XBrettKennyX"a. He is unlikely to do it'"
How do you know this? Have you spoken to him/offered the job?
Quote ="XBrettKennyX"b. Coming back NOW to coach Wigan would be a mistake'"
Why? When exactly would be a good time? If we were doing well we wouldn't need him. With the resources at his disposal and his ability i'm guessing it would be a great time.
Quote ="XBrettKennyX"c. He would not be better than Noble at this moment in time for Wigan.'"
Sorry mate that's complete and utter bollards.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Yes he captained England at junior level in RU as well as captaining GB at junior level in RL.
However are you suggesting RU isn't a foreign code to him because he played the game before he signed for Wigan aged 17 and so his knowledge of RU from about 25 years ago is relevant to his current job in RU?
If so I am sure his RL knowledge picked up about the same time would make the transition back again seamless
Dave'"
I'm not suggesting anything, I was asking a question that I already knew the answer to. I certainly wasn't suggesting Edwards would be the right choice at this moment in time to take over from Nobby if it came to it. A successful transition like that is too simplistic. I don't doubt that Edwards has ever stopped studying other sports, RU included, just as I'm certain he's never stopped studying the changes in RL since his departure. The basic structure of both games hasn't actually changed over the years, the execution has but the basic structure hasn't and I'm sure he'd bring along certain aspects that may improve an RL team just as he seems to have done in his time in RU with what he learned in RL. Now's not his time.
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