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If The Guardian told me that night follows day I wouldnt believe it. From being probably the best newspaper in the country The Guardian is now a rag that I wouldnt use to wipe my arris on.
Society will not accept nor can it afford a prolonged lockdown and I suspect a "rollback" of the lockdown will commence in 3 weeks.
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If The Guardian told me that night follows day I wouldnt believe it. From being probably the best newspaper in the country The Guardian is now a rag that I wouldnt use to wipe my arris on.
Society will not accept nor can it afford a prolonged lockdown and I suspect a "rollback" of the lockdown will commence in 3 weeks.
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| Germany have started to rollback their lockdown measures, but have ruled out the return of mass gatherings until at least the 31st August, so we'll probably play most of the season behind closed doors.
Perhaps clubs could stream games online and charge fans to watch them (excluding season ticket holders)?
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Germany have started to rollback their lockdown measures, but have ruled out the return of mass gatherings until at least the 31st August, so we'll probably play most of the season behind closed doors.
Perhaps clubs could stream games online and charge fans to watch them (excluding season ticket holders)?'"
cant due to the sky contract
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| When we lift the lockdown could not only rely on science, but also political spin. My guess is that the next review is 7/5, the day prior to the moved May Day bank holiday which was done in order to celebrate VE day. BJ could put a spin on it that we have beat the virus like we beat the Nazis as we lift the lockdown in time for bank holiday weekend.
Other than that I can't see us relaxing the lockdown before June.
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| Quote ="Pieman"sky will never go for it'"
I don’t know, it may be a decent earner for them. Remember if any live sport comes back thousands of people (me included) suddenly have to pay the extra for sport again
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"I don’t know, it may be a decent earner for them. Remember if any live sport comes back thousands of people (me included) suddenly have to pay the extra for sport again'"
but that money is already budgeted for from sky, I cant see thousands more people getting sport who didnt have it before
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| Quote ="Pieman"but that money is already budgeted for from sky, I cant see thousands more people getting sport who didnt have it before'"
I could be wrong, but my understanding of the ‘pause’ for Sky Sports, is on the proviso that there isn’t any live sport. Once a live sport, that SS programmed before the COVID crisis comes back, then the pause is unpaused.
If RL plays it right we may take advantage of that. Whether it’ll last is a different matter altogether. Then throw in the ethicalness etc....
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"I could be wrong, but my understanding of the ‘pause’ for Sky Sports, is on the proviso that there isn’t any live sport. Once a live sport, that SS programmed before the COVID crisis comes back, then the pause is unpaused.
If RL plays it right we may take advantage of that. Whether it’ll last is a different matter altogether. Then throw in the ethicalness etc....'"
And if they do take advantage wouldn’t sky just walk away from RL next season?
This “plan”has more than a few holes in it,one being the infrastructure to televise games to an acceptable level,yes I know the DW do a good job on match days but we all like our comforts that sky brings.
How would it work if they are to count these games against your season ticket? Not everyone has sky nor in Wigan’s case Wigan tv.
And where is this mythical pay preview audience suddenly going to appear from? Harrison the agent is clearly the driving force behind this but I don’t see many taking up the clarion call either I rather suspect,and I could be wrong in this that those well known pay per view masters called sky have looked at most sports and wondered if it was worth it,that sky has no RL games on PPV shows there’s no audience,plus I do feel given the downturn that’s about to hit us it’s a bit much expecting fans to dip into their pockets when most are going to feel a huge pinch when things go back to some normality?
And the last,that I can think of blocking points is sky itself they have channel after channel to fill not all sports will return at once so why would they let the rights ease unless they’d decided to ditch RL after next season?
Any move like this I feel would provoke sky to walk away and there isn’t anyone to take over from them is there as money will be tight for everyone going forward .
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| Reports on the plans for reopening of the country first phase including schools could happen in May. Sports may be back July
The second “amber” phase, beginning in late May or early June, would see more shops and businesses reopen, all employees urged to return to work and some small social gatherings permitted. Pubs and restaurants and larger events such as sport and concerts would not be phased in until July or later in the summer.
If there were events allowed would they mean reduced capacity? What would cause bigger problems for clubs no fans or deciding on who will be allowed to watch live. Many have said that they would not ask for refunds if the season was cancelled. However if some fans are allowed into games how would season ticket holders that are not included react?
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| Quote ="hengirl"And if they do take advantage wouldn’t sky just walk away from RL next season?
This “plan”has more than a few holes in it,one being the infrastructure to televise games to an acceptable level,yes I know the DW do a good job on match days but we all like our comforts that sky brings.
How would it work if they are to count these games against your season ticket? Not everyone has sky nor in Wigan’s case Wigan tv.
And where is this mythical pay preview audience suddenly going to appear from? Harrison the agent is clearly the driving force behind this but I don’t see many taking up the clarion call either I rather suspect,and I could be wrong in this that those well known pay per view masters called sky have looked at most sports and wondered if it was worth it,that sky has no RL games on PPV shows there’s no audience,plus I do feel given the downturn that’s about to hit us it’s a bit much expecting fans to dip into their pockets when most are going to feel a huge pinch when things go back to some normality?
And the last,that I can think of blocking points is sky itself they have channel after channel to fill not all sports will return at once so why would they let the rights ease unless they’d decided to ditch RL after next season?
Any move like this I feel would provoke sky to walk away and there isn’t anyone to take over from them is there as money will be tight for everyone going forward .'"
I understand your reservations and you make fair points too. Ones which I’m not going to try and come back at to be honest.
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| Quote ="stpatricks"Reports on the plans for reopening of the country first phase including schools could happen in May. Sports may be back July
The second “amber” phase, beginning in late May or early June, would see more shops and businesses reopen, all employees urged to return to work and some small social gatherings permitted. Pubs and restaurants and larger events such as sport and concerts would not be phased in until July or later in the summer.
If there were events allowed would they mean reduced capacity? What would cause bigger problems for clubs no fans or deciding on who will be allowed to watch live. Many have said that they would not ask for refunds if the season was cancelled. However if some fans are allowed into games how would season ticket holders that are not included react?'"
I saw that and I just can’t see it being accurate, at least the timeframe anyway. How can the Govt set out a time frame for resuming anything whilst deaths are still knocking around 1k a day?
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| And what about season ticket holders who have paid for their tickets,you can't play behind closed doors as you have already paid unless we will get refunded after the lockdown finishes,it seems to me that the paying public aren't being considered on this one
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| No club can ignore its season ticket holders, they are large proportion of the home gate.
If we have to pay for each game televised then if it is done via Wigan tv the club could make financial arrangements season ticket holders.
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| Do you get a Wigan TV subscription with your season ticket? If not, then couldn't the club just include it within your season ticket so you don't have to pay extra to screen games?
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"I could be wrong, but my understanding of the ‘pause’ for Sky Sports, is on the proviso that there isn’t any live sport. Once a live sport, that SS programmed before the COVID crisis comes back, then the pause is unpaused.
If RL plays it right we may take advantage of that. Whether it’ll last is a different matter altogether. Then throw in the ethicalness etc....'"
ok, what I mean is sky pay for the RL rights on the basis that everyones subscription is paid for, now that it is paused its sky that are losing out, when the pause finishes sky wont have a lot more money coming in as in fact they will have less than they would have had. The only was they can have more is if 1000's more sign up to sky sports after the pause which I very very much doubt.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"I saw that and I just can’t see it being accurate, at least the timeframe anyway. How can the Govt set out a time frame for resuming anything whilst deaths are still knocking around 1k a day?'"
Have to agree with you.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Do you get a Wigan TV subscription with your season ticket? If not, then couldn't the club just include it within your season ticket so you don't have to pay extra to screen games?'"
Simple suggestion Wigan RL contact all season ticket holders with a login to Wigan TV for home games away games would be pay to view .Could be this a way to save RL as the SKY deal is nearly up and if this happens would SKY in the future take this into consideration .I would pay for away games as if you take the cost of travel into consideration just depends on how much they ask. If this saves RL so be it .
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| Quote ="jaws1"Simple suggestion Wigan RL contact all season ticket holders with a login to Wigan TV for home games away games would be pay to view .Could be this a way to save RL as the SKY deal is nearly up and if this happens would SKY in the future take this into consideration .I would pay for away games as if you take the cost of travel into consideration just depends on how much they ask. If this saves RL so be it .'"
That's my thinking also
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| Quote ="jaws1"Simple suggestion Wigan RL contact all season ticket holders with a login to Wigan TV for home games away games would be pay to view .Could be this a way to save RL as the SKY deal is nearly up and if this happens would SKY in the future take this into consideration .I would pay for away games as if you take the cost of travel into consideration just depends on how much they ask. If this saves RL so be it .'"
I’m a season ticket holder and also subscribe to Wigan TV so it wouldn’t work for me. I would pay to watch away games though, this does seem like a good idea.
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| so season tickets are 100's of pounds and the wigan tv pass is 5 pound a month so 40 pound till december and you want them to pay for away games? they would have to refund the rest of the season ticket money
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| Quote ="hatty"I’m a season ticket holder and also subscribe to Wigan TV so it wouldn’t work for me. I would pay to watch away games though, this does seem like a good idea.'"
I am a season ticket holder also subscribe to Wigan TV ,maybe the club could freeze our subscription to Wigan TV .
Just a thought the suggestion was for SKY pay for view if your a SKY subscriber it should be free to air as you already have paid. [size=150IF[/size they do decide to play every game behind close doors then rather than pay for view would it not be better subscribing to SKY for the duration then cancelling.
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| Quote ="Pieman"so season tickets are 100's of pounds and the wigan tv pass is 5 pound a month so 40 pound till december and you want them to pay for away games? they would have to refund the rest of the season ticket money'"
Cant see that happening on Wigan TV would SKY agree to allow games on Wigan TV? SKY have the sole right to televised games. It does not boil to money the future of the game as it stands is in jeopardy.
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