Myler still has alot to learn, probably down to being younger. Hopefully learning off Briers will help, as for him being overated, you don't have the stats he has if you haven't got something about you.

Say what you like about Long - and I've said as much as most - but you can't question the guy's on the field toughness.

The point was that people were questioning Kyles toughness when Long himself got injured alot.

Myler is a good player but nowhere near as good as Eastmond. Tomkins is better than both. Much more of an all round player.

100% Agree.

Sam is fast becoming a very very dangerous Full Back, watch the highlights from yesterdays game and notice him joining the line on the 4th tackle play, his work for Richards opening try was nothing short of brilliance. He is the most exciting this to come out of Wigan in years.

Obviously the threat from him joining the line is massive but do you not think he's too much of an easy target back there?

In what way?

His defence position is very good plus the fact his attack is second to none no brainer for me

Would have both Sam and Eastmond in the halves against the Aussies and let them play their natural game....Aussies dont like "off the cuff" rugby and these 2 are very dangerous....also liked the look of Widdop as well....these 3 could cause some damage.....as for Myler...no thanks....never rated him and he has been demoted by a hooker.

The Ablett incident for example, him catching high kicks leaves him at the mercy of dirty players, especially if there is a bit of biff in the game?

And the clueless post of the year award goes to......

It will happen to most players sam got straight back up we got a penalty (he should have gone) let them do it he's tough enough

I hope Mcnamara can prove the doubters wrong and perform well as the new coach because the talent is there to have a real good crack this year.

Don't think its fair to write him off before a single competitive game though like some have. I wish him the best of luck, I think he has every reason to be optimistic.

Eastmond scored the winning try against us in the final eliminator and then was Stains best player in the Grand Final last season. Hardly the stuff of someone who is "soft".

You mean the scrum halve who has been converted to a hooker and won the LTT at wembley at hooker...so he has been demoted by a hooker

to be fair he was a hoooker converted to scrum half and back to hooker

I like Eastmond and can't help but think he's merely going through a bad injury spell, lots of players have them and he's young enough to put this season behind him injury wise and be a major star next season. Give me Eastmond and Tomkins against the Aussies please, I don't know about Widdop and am not sure about what I've seen of McGuire in internationals (although I'll admit I'm not a great watcher of the international scene)

Unfortunately for Myler, Eastmond and Tomkins have turned up at the same time and despite playing in a top SL team in 2010 hasn't even held a candle to Tomkins this year. What I will say is that Mylers standing in the eyes of Wigan fans has undoubtedley plummeted after he demonstrated his lack of class at the HJ in February.

What are you on about?

Yes, but it's got a better goal difference...

What has Latics and the South Pole got in common?

They're both -10 at the moment.

Its only gonna get colder with Tottenham away up next

The senile old git said on SSN that Martinez has his backing and that performances don't concern him, but attendances do.

Perhaps someone should tell him it's a rugby town?

Whelan should be worried about the attendances - the crowd for the visit of Chelski was shockingly low.

That's why we should turn out in force against Bradford, just so he could choke on Pooles Pie.