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| Quote ="NickyKiss"It’s an option that just feels pretty pointless to me. It won’t appease the fans, it won’t excite anyone, we don’t really need a gamble player because we have three halves as it is, so we need a ready made starter and other than goal kicking, he provides nothing we haven’t already got.
If it’s the best we can do, don’t do it and sit on the money. I think people would be more understanding of that. Try and strengthen other areas as best we can to negate the need for a top class half as a fall back option.
As ever though most of us don’t know the facts and the club could be laughing themselves at these rumours. I really think they should be.'"
I just don't see us signing Richardson because as other people have said he just isn't a Wigan type signing.
Even if Field doesn't come back I just cannot believe we would sign him.
In an emergency Powell could cover 7 so personally I don't see a HB coming in unless one of the Aussies under contract do not return.
We have more pressing concerns at centre and arguably prop.
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| I'd honestly rather have Hampshire or Mellor.
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| Danny Richardson?
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| Read a thread on the independent Cas forum saying they’d agreed to let Gaz O’Brien move elsewhere. I wouldn’t be overly keen on him either but I’d take him above Richardson.
I can’t think of a halfback I’d want less than Richardson tbh, so it doesn’t say much for O’Brien or anyone else.
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"I'd honestly rather have Hampshire or Mellor.'"
I’d rather sign none and wait for the right signing rather than sign from a selection of rejects.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"I’d rather sign none and wait for the right signing rather than sign from a selection of rejects.'"
We surely just do that over Richardson. I’m not having it that Rads, Lenagan and Wane seriously think Richardson is the answer and that they don’t think anything better will come along before the end of 2022. They may need to shuffle the quota round a bit to make it happen mid season but it gives breathing space and time for opportunities to crop up. I just can’t see anything in it.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"We surely just do that over Richardson. I’m not having it that Rads, Lenagan and Wane seriously think Richardson is the answer and that they don’t think anything better will come along before the end of 2022. They may need to shuffle the quota round a bit to make it happen mid season but it gives breathing space and time for opportunities to crop up. I just can’t see anything in it.'"
Wonder what Brett Kenny is up to these days? We do have a propensity to re-sign former players and he’d do a better job than Richardson
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| Put Briers through pre season, if he survives I'd give him a playing contract before Richardson
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| I’m reasonably confident there is nothing in this but if there was, Lenagan always says he reads the forums, so I think the message about Richardson is pretty clear from the masses- DO NOT DO IT! Save the cash and stick with what we have. The lad isn’t good enough to play for Wigan or any other top superleague side.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I’m reasonably confident there is nothing in this but if there was, Lenagan always says he reads the forums, so I think the message about Richardson is pretty clear from the masses- DO NOT DO IT! Save the cash and stick with what we have. The lad isn’t good enough to play for Wigan or any other top superleague side.'"
I'd be more worried if he listens to fans about signings tbh.
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"I'd be more worried if he listens to fans about signings tbh.'"
In 99% of cases I absolutely agree (although he is only a fan himself) but not this one. As I say I reckon it’s a none event anyway but on the off chance it’s not, he’d be doing himself a favour by saving a few quid and doing the club a favour by not signing a player clearly not good enough for Wigan or most sides across the league.
I called Richardson out as a over hyped flash in the pan within a few months of his Saints debut and have seen plenty to strengthen my view.
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| Quote ="Suzy Banyon"Let's just say a certain halfback that wasn't deemed good enough for Saints, Leigh or Cas is at Robin Park as we speak
It's sure to put bums on seats next season...'"
I take it that you have seen him with your own eyes and the information wasn't given to you by a blind man on a galloping horse?
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"In 99% of cases I absolutely agree (although he is only a fan himself) but not this one. As I say I reckon it’s a none event anyway but on the off chance it’s not, he’d be doing himself a favour by saving a few quid and doing the club a favour by not signing a player clearly not good enough for Wigan or most sides across the league.
I called Richardson out as a over hyped flash in the pan within a few months of his Saints debut and have seen plenty to strengthen my view.'"
If the coaching staff wants him.....the coaching staff gets him.
IL's opinion should only come into it regarding the salary cap and who we can and can't afford.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I’m reasonably confident there is nothing in this but if there was, Lenagan always says he reads the forums, so I think the message about Richardson is pretty clear from the masses- DO NOT DO IT! Save the cash and stick with what we have. The lad isn’t good enough to play for Wigan or any other top superleague side.'"
There's nothing in it.
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"If the coaching staff wants him.....the coaching staff gets him.
IL's opinion should only come into it regarding the salary cap and who we can and can't afford.'"
We know that isn’t how it’s worked in the past though. Rads and Lenagan have selected and signed the players and handed them to the coaching staff. Now that may have changed and if it has and Wane has suggested him, I could maybe just about understand it (although he’s still shocking) but who knows.
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| Quote ="Sweaty Betty's"There's nothing in it.'"
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"We know that isn’t how it’s worked in the past though. Rads and Lenagan have selected and signed the players and handed them to the coaching staff. Now that may have changed and if it has and Wane has suggested him, I could maybe just about understand it (although he’s still shocking) but who knows.'"
Not how it was explained at the forum
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"Not how it was explained at the forum'"
It has been in the past, so maybe it’s changed. They’ve said they identify the players as well as signing them. The coach hasn’t been in charge of going to them with a list of targets although they have said they consider their input.
Ultimately it doesn’t really matter. I’m happy all of them have more about them than to waste money on Danny Richardson. It has to be a none story. I’d back them with pretty much any signing. I haven’t bagged any of the other new lads, I can see exactly why each one has been signed but this would make no sense whatsoever.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Quote ="Egg Chasing"Not how it was explained at the forum'"
It has been in the past, so maybe it’s changed. They’ve said they identify the players as well as signing them. The coach hasn’t been in charge of going to them with a list of targets although they have said they consider their input.
Ultimately it doesn’t really matter. I’m happy all of them have more about them than to waste money on Danny Richardson. It has to be a none story. I’d back them with pretty much any signing. I haven’t bagged any of the other new lads, I can see exactly why each one has been signed but this would make no sense whatsoever.'"
I don't think I've missed a fans forum
I've never heard that
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| If the club were to sign Richardson, they would be signing a player who is no better or worse than Josh Woods who was released.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"I don't think I've missed a fans forum
I've never heard that'"
So the coach picks the targets then?
I missed the last forum but have been at every other one before that and it’s certainly not how I’ve ever interpreted what they say. I recall one forum where Lenagan explained how him and Radlinski have a document of which players contracts run out when, which academy lads are coming through in certain positions, who they expect could step up and they discuss targets well in advance of going for them.
Mitch Clark, Joe Bullock and Jarrod Sammut for starters weren’t the coaches picks surely?
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"So the coach picks the targets then?
I missed the last forum but have been at every other one before that and it’s certainly not how I’ve ever interpreted what they say. I recall one forum where Lenagan explained how him and Radlinski have a document of which players contracts run out when, which academy lads are coming through in certain positions, who they expect could step up and they discuss targets well in advance of going for them.
Mitch Clark, Joe Bullock and Jarrod Sammut for starters weren’t the coaches picks surely?'"
Sammut was brought in specifically at Lam's request
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"So the coach picks the targets then?
I missed the last forum but have been at every other one before that and it’s certainly not how I’ve ever interpreted what they say. I recall one forum where Lenagan explained how him and Radlinski have a document of which players contracts run out when, which academy lads are coming through in certain positions, who they expect could step up and they discuss targets well in advance of going for them.
Mitch Clark, Joe Bullock and Jarrod Sammut for starters weren’t the coaches picks surely?'"
Nope
Not solely
And I do believe Jarrod Sammut was Adrian Lam's pick
Below has always been my understanding
Coach, Assistant coaches,Scouts etc. etc. all bring suggestions to the table - Players are discussed and proposals put forward to Senior Management
Areas of requirements are discussed by Senior management & Coaching staff and people are tasked with looking into those situations and again info fed back into the Senior management
What is categorically NOT DONE in the simplistic way put forward, is KR & IL just pick a player and sign him
Ultimately there is a budget that sits behind everything and KR is in charge of that budget
Of Course he will say we have a list of academy players coming through and contracts etc. what else are they supposed to say - We have no idea who's on what contract and for how long?
The explanation they gave at the last fans forum also explains why it has to be a more nuanced approach than "The coach picks a player and signs him".
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Nope
Not solely
And I do believe Jarrod Sammut was Adrian Lam's pick
Below has always been my understanding
Coach, Assistant coaches,Scouts etc. etc. all bring suggestions to the table - Players are discussed and proposals put forward to Senior Management
Areas of requirements are discussed by Senior management & Coaching staff and people are tasked with looking into those situations and again info fed back into the Senior management
What is categorically NOT DONE in the simplistic way put forward, is KR & IL just pick a player and sign him
Ultimately there is a budget that sits behind everything and KR is in charge of that budget
Of Course he will say we have a list of academy players coming through and contracts etc. what else are they supposed to say - We have no idea who's on what contract and for how long?
The explanation they gave at the last fans forum also explains why it has to be a more nuanced approach than "The coach picks a player and signs him".'"
Heaven forbid the club would be as professional as this. You know it's more fun believing IL just spins a dice and hopes for the best.
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