You going to bore us to death in all these threads?

As for O'Loughlin he was outstanding and it was his best game in the season although overall he has been pretty good.

Never a captain but a dam fine player.

well done o'loughlin always
admired him, ok not a vocal captain but leads by example

MOTM by a country mile. Awesome display.

i have be one of his critics and deservedly so but tonight i must agree for me he was man of the match had a fantastic game hope he continues,i love eating humble pie.

Correct.

One of our standout players week after week but tonight he was, IMO, the best player on the park.

Bloody superb tonight. Some of those hits were bone-rattling and his runs were more effective than I've seen in a while.

Well done Shaun.

Same, from a Bulls fan.

I thought he was outstanding.

He was every where in attack and defence & was even holding his hand up to take drives off acting halfback.

Top performance.

Would agree with that. Led from the front expertly well.

Ainscough's first half was brilliant, lots of work and came looking for more.

S'oL was superb tonight, real leadership by example.

Hang on.


I have to admit, good performance from about 20 mins in. I actually found myself praising him.


HOWEVER.


He gifted Stains their first try. Awful defence vs Fat Boy.

Oh dear.

Oh come on!!! How many players have stopped KC doing that int he last 10 years?

Edit - I can't be d arguing with you.

Maybe, but all the "Lockers is the best defensive 13 in teh world" crew must admit that he was at fault for the try.

KC owned him. End of.

I would argue from the body position and the greasy ball which Locky tried to clamp Mariusz Pudzianowski would not have stopped KC.

You seem to take pleasure in using this to justify your sance on Locky, despite what was a superb performance tonight. End of.

If you thought any player was better than Lockers for us tonight I give up

Lockers has an awesome gmae tonight. The best I have seen him play for Wigan in the last two season.

But why be so defensive over the captaincy issue? They are separate issues and he still not up to to any of West, Bell, Hanley, Edwards or Farrell as a captain.

But I will say again he was awesome tonight and it was the best attacking display from him I have seen in a long long time.

Dave

Actually, take another look BK. There were 2 defenders there, the other being Bailey and NEITHER could stop KC doing what he has done consisitently throughout his carreer. Go figure....

It was a soft try to concede, end of. I am not blaming one player but our goal line defence has been pants for a while. KC does this thing weekly. It's a tactic and almost blindingly obvious. The fact we conceded a try to it says more about the teams general defensive frailties close to the line than it does any one player. It is just one issue that needs sorting out for Wigan to move up a level. [uIt is not only KC who can score tries like that against us.[/u

Dave

Still better positioning that for the one Fielden let in the other week! At least we got somewhere near KC

Agreed. Neither though is it a stick to beat O'Loughlin with on tonight's performance. As for him being 'owned' by KC on the back of that one lapse (equally shared with Bailey btw)... that's a joke. O'Loghlin had KC, Wellens and half the Saints team in his pocket defensively today. One defensive lapse doesn't negate this. I'm not disagreeing with your post incidentally as I called it as a soft try at the match but having seen the replay, equal credit needs to go to KC.

I think the words 'awesome' and brilliant are banded round far too easily. Lockers was good, thats actuate, nothing more.

For me at loose he's playing out of position looks far more threatening when running down the line linking up with Gleeson then roberts, not floating around the middle of the field.

Ainscough, Carmont, Hock-on one side
Roberts Gleeson Lockers on the other. Looks good to me.

Remember how well J Tomkins played at 10 when Lockers was injured? Get Joel at 13. Teams finally beginning to take shape.

All the players involved were at fault for that try and I agree it is not a stick to beat up Lockers with.



As I said he does it (or try's it) every week. Equally lesser players can score that way against us. We need to work out how to defend against it.

Dave