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| It's all gone quiet on the Timmy Smith front, I'd really like us to have a good attempt at keeping him. Surely the new Aussie boys Riddell and Roberts could help us out.
Young talanted, as his downfalls, but as plenty of years ahead to improve them.
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| problem with timmy is that, if he plays to his potential, hes a certain SOO and Oz starter
i dont think we have any chance of keeping him
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| Quote ="Mark1987"It's all gone quiet on the Timmy Smith front, I'd really like us to have a good attempt at keeping him. Surely the new Aussie boys Riddell and Roberts could help us out.
Young talanted, as his downfalls, but as plenty of years ahead to improve them.'"
Agree
Would love him to stay but that wont happen
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"But yet you expected myself to justify a point thats been over and done with 2 weeks back cos you can't be d flickin back through the pages? who the hell do you think you are?
Secondly, do you think Wigan could get Orford for the same price as Long? NO, obviously not.
So how do you expect to have both Orford and Myler under the same CAP? wake up, Myler himself isn't going to be cheap looking at his demand.
Long and Myler-split backs, develop the Myler/Tomkins partnership over 2 years under Longs supervision bring Sam off the bench and often starting.
I can't believe I'm even bothering re-explaining this considering Long has now signed for Hull.
But anytime you wanna have a pop, let me know and I'll happily rip you and your lame arguments to pieces.'" Dont want to derail the thread but you seem to have a massive chip on your sholder why is that?
The long thing is gone so get over it geez
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| Nathan Cayless could be on his way out of Eels, as his place in the team as been filled by Justin Poore, worth a shot??
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| Quote ="[Gareth"problem with timmy is that, if he plays to his potential, hes a certain SOO and Oz starter
i dont think we have any chance of keeping him'"
Dont get carried away, i dont think at his full potential he'd get a game in an England shirt. Infront of Lockyer and Thurston or Burrows and Leon. No chance.
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| Not forgetting Dobson did the same wanted to go back to Oz to secure a first team spot, to find he wasn't the good enough standard still. Hope with Tim Smith the same doesn't happen. Don't want him to come back to bite us with another SL team as Dobson as.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Dont get carried away, i dont think at his full potential he'd get a game in an England shirt. Infront of Lockyer and Thurston or Burrows and Leon. No chance.'"
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"But yet you expected myself to justify a point thats been over and done with 2 weeks back cos you can't be d flickin back through the pages? who the hell do you think you are?
Secondly, do you think Wigan could get Orford for the same price as Long? NO, obviously not.
So how do you expect to have both Orford and Myler under the same CAP? wake up, Myler himself isn't going to be cheap looking at his demand.
Long and Myler-split backs, develop the Myler/Tomkins partnership over 2 years under Longs supervision bring Sam off the bench and often starting.
I can't believe I'm even bothering re-explaining this considering Long has now signed for Hull.
But anytime you wanna have a pop, let me know and I'll happily rip you and your lame arguments to pieces.'"
I do not want to sign both Orford and Myler, I have never said this, It's you who wants both Long and Myler, I was just asking why you wouldn't want Orford instead as I beleive him to be the better player. That is all. I understand your point and it's not a bad one by any means, the only thing is I was confused because of the whole Orford, Long thing.
Look at it this way, Orford is now a much better option than Long and we should be in for him.
Im not having a pop, I was discussing things with you, something which is quite a good argument, between Long and Orford. You can rip my arguments to pieces if you wish, if it gives you some sort of kick, but like someone else said you have a chip on your shoulder.
My argument is hardly lame as well, however your predictable approach is, me and clearly a few others on here find it laughable.
Just for the record, we are on RLfans not on question time. You don't have to be so defencive about your party.
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| Quote ="Mark1987"Nathan Cayless could be on his way out of Eels, as his place in the team as been filled by Justin Poore, worth a shot??'"
It was in the express yesterday that the Eels would be willing to let him go if he could get a deal in the superleague, personally think he'd be perfect for us.
So there we have it Nathan Cayless and Richie Myler for next year please Mr Lenegan.
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| Quote ="Mark1987"Nathan Cayless could be on his way out of Eels, as his place in the team as been filled by Justin Poore, worth a shot??'"
He would be excelent, I am pretty sure gets plenty game time in as well. He is a captain at the eals so he clealy a leader which is what we need. He is 31 so we could probably maybe offer him 2 years with a 3rd optional. I am certain that IL will have someone in mind, I just wonder if Cayless is one of them.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"He would be excelent, I am pretty sure gets plenty game time in as well. He is a captain at the eals so he clealy a leader which is what we need. He is 31 so we could probably maybe offer him 2 years with a 3rd optional. I am certain that IL will have someone in mind, I just wonder if Cayless is one of them.'"
Both of the Cayless's are out of contract, if only
Daniel Anderson made Hindmarsh captain of the Eels That's what I think made him stay with them.
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| Quote ="[Gareth"wont be around forever'"
Correct but then hes got to dislodge the likes of Campese and even the likes of Trent.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Correct but then hes got to dislodge the likes of Campese and even the likes of Trent.'"
very true but like i said, IF he plays to his (full) potential.
he still has a long way to go and i for one would be very happy if his form continued for us beyond this season
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| Think talk of Smith staying is irrelevant all signs point to him returning hope at the end of the season, plus for me the guy blows eitheir really hot or really cold and we cant afford someone like that in such a pivotal position. Also if Gleeson were to get injured Smith would once again get heavily exposed in defence something we cant afford to happen, we all remember earlier in the season his defensive frailty's.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"He would be excelent, I am pretty sure gets plenty game time in as well. He is a captain at the eals so he clealy a leader which is what we need. He is 31 so we could probably maybe offer him 2 years with a 3rd optional. I am certain that IL will have someone in mind, I just wonder if Cayless is one of them.'"
Beast of a player in his time. He has been a bit quiet this year from what i have been told. saying that o have our other "reported" targets ie O'meely and Webb.
I dont think Cayless would be massively expensive either. Could be worth a punt because he is defo a no nonsense prop who is a true leader.
Never been that big a fan of his brother though as a player. Just not to my taste i suppose.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Think talk of Smith staying is irrelevant all signs point to him returning hope at the end of the season, plus for me the guy blows eitheir really hot or really cold and we cant afford someone like that in such a pivotal position. Also if Gleeson were to get injured Smith would once again get heavily exposed in defence something we cant afford to happen, we all remember earlier in the season his defensive frailty's.'"
Do not remind me.
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"
I dont think Cayless would be massively expensive either. Could be worth a punt because he is defo a no nonsense prop who is a true leader.'"
I always think that Kiwis are never as expensive as there Aussie counterparts, must be to do with playing origin that bumps up the price.
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"Beast of a player in his time. He has been a bit quiet this year from what i have been told. saying that o have our other "reported" targets ie O'meely and Webb.
I dont think Cayless would be massively expensive either. Could be worth a punt because he is defo a no nonsense prop who is a true leader.
Never been that big a fan of his brother though as a player. Just not to my taste i suppose.'"
His agent may disagree with him being the world cup winnning captain.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Correct but then hes got to dislodge the likes of Campese and even the likes of Trent.'"
Ok for SOO though as he is a Queenslander
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| why dont you offer incentive contracts too say 4 or 5 young kiwi's aussie's that are showing potential now
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| Quote ="changa"why dont you offer incentive contracts too say 4 or 5 young kiwi's aussie's that are showing potential now
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Tim Smith, Cameron Phelps and LeuLuai are all foreign players who are still young.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Tim Smith, Cameron Phelps and LeuLuai are all foreign players who are still young.'"
Stop letting facts get in the way of an opinion..
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Stop letting facts get in the way of an opinion..'"
I am sorry sir, I shall make sure I only do the opposite in future.
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| Quote ="changa"why dont you offer incentive contracts too say 4 or 5 young kiwi's aussie's that are showing potential now
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You never heard of overseas quotas?
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