Can’t quote again for some reason. Not having a go Stu, I’m guilty of it myself I’m sure. I just don’t read it like that at all.

I know he comes out and backs his ability but why shouldn’t he? His record in coaching is outstanding but he very rarely makes excuses, he doesn’t publicly go after his players or throw them under a bus, he builds them up and on an occasion like that Samoa defeat, he tried to put all the blame on his own shoulders and said he should’ve done things better and would look to improve.

Ultimately I just think time spent in an environment where the countries best players are all together and they’re playing against some monsters in that Tonga pack, the likes of which they rarely face in Superleague will improve most of the England lads in one way or another.

There is literally only one way to interpret "so credit to the Rhinos". Any other interpretation is complete and utter BS. Still theres been a lot of that on this thread so perhaps it's no surprise.

I also take my comment back about Newman not a winning mentality after spending time with Wane and that environment I am sure he has now

[urlhttps://www.seriousaboutrl.com/harry-newman-hails-english-pathways-and-reveals-how-direct-shaun-wane-is-improving-his-game-84516/[/url

There we go

For what the 'ape' may get wrong in his comments about other coaches, the players speak volumes and thats what matters...

Both of those are grim, don't disagree there. I saw you post on another thread that perhaps it needs a stronger moderating hand and I can't disagree with that either. I think it's all massively over exaggerated on here though, and I'm just not sure why people that constantly post about what a cesspool it is on there would spend so much time on it and even more time discussing posts on there, not with the posters that made them but on here with their mates? Just a bit weird if you ask me

Think the disconnect here might be that I'm dealing with a grown man that says butt hurt

I think the disconnect came much earlier than that. Around the time you came on here expecting me to give a monkey's what you think.

I browse on there probably for 5-10 mins every few weeks and that’s enough tbh (I browse on other independent boards by the way as I just like to see what’s going on across the game). To find a couple of examples like the ones noted above, in that amount of time tells a tale doesn’t it?!

Don’t know a single person on here personally btw and for clarity, I wouldn’t be responding to people who make the posts that get mocked on here directly on Red Vee, as you’d get more sense talking to a plank of wood (and if you did, you’d probably get called a paedophile).

I’d say it sits somewhere between a fans forum and Twitter if I had to grade it.

The interviewer asked him about Paul Wellens move to Tongan team and his knowledge of the English team.

He didn’t just randomly come out with a dig at Wellens, he was asked about the move and gave an honest assessment of it.

Didn’t see any issue with it.

It was Wellens that turned his back on England…to join a team England were playing in a 3 game series. If he was removed from his position and joined Tonga I’m sure there would be a very different sentiment but he didn’t. He chose Tonga over England and as head coach he had every right to make the comments he did.

He could just as easily have said “that’s a conversation that Paul and I had in private”

Lots of coaches play a straight bat when asked something contentious.

I think it’s clear Wane has tried to whip up a ‘us vs them’ mentality in his squad and I’ve no issue with that at all but my the same token, I’ve no real issue with Wellens working for Tonga either. It’s common place in other sports coaches being involved against their home nations. I know it’s a bit different with Wellens having been involved with England and leaving that role pre World Cup but in fairness to him, he did have his first head coaching position to plan for, so it was understandable.

It adds a bit of intrigue IMO with Saints players working under a guy associated mainly with Wigan and going up against their club coaches. Mate vs mate is played on in State of Origin and does no harm (I had to laugh at Welsby pushing Hopoate’s face in to the mud at the weekend. That’s a lad who will definitely leave friendships on the sideline).

I’m glad when coaches give us answers, not just boring robot answers.

Gives the press something to promote the game with.

If I recall correctly, at the last world cup didn't most travelling teams have an assistant from a UK based team, I thought it was just to save on costs rather than fly loads of assistant coaches over they had UK based ones to help with things, I could be wrong though.
I have no issues with Wellens 'opting' to support Woolfe in his role, did wayne ask him and he turned it down, I haven't heard it said he has (again I may have missed it) but if he didnt then why not get the experience of assisting with a national team.

Can't be doing with this drum and band rubbish at Headingley doing my head in will have to mute it!

Hurrell

Harry Smith is superb

So off the pace it’s unreal.

Superb today. It won’t sit well with some Saints fans but Wane has played Woolf like a fiddle. His side have bought in to the ‘us against them’ mentality and looked so hungry. Woolf must be under some pressure for his job after this series if Wane is so inferior.

That looked like three punches and maybe even an attempted eye gouge from Hurrell. And only a yellow.

Boring boring Shaun Wanes England.

Probably player of the series for me Smith.

He’s been outstanding.

Much better from Bateman today

Thought he was much improved last week and he’s kicked on again today. Good to see.

The passion and desire to defend their line at the end summed it all up. Great to see.