I say give Walters time as he clearly has a much higher ceiling than Chan....he has to or he'd keep banging his head

Knowles is more of an immediate concern as there is an option on Lees for next year. Ideally both will sign again but couldn't begrudge either of them an NRL move. We've 18 players off contract in the next 12 months, and up to 5 quota spots to play with. Of those there's only four I'd definitely want to keep and another 5 who should definitely be let go, so we should be salary competitive with recruitment and retention right now.

[quote="SFW":2hy1wqo0]Knowles is more of an immediate concern as there is an option on Lees for next year. Ideally both will sign again but couldn't begrudge either of them an NRL move. We've 18 players off contract in the next 12 months, and up to 5 quota spots to play with. Of those there's only four I'd definitely want to keep and another 5 who should definitely be let go, so we should be salary competitive with recruitment and retention right now.[/quote:2hy1wqo0] There is a guy ITK on the other Wigan forum, who is very well connected, and he is saying that Knowles to Dolphins and Lees to Wire are done deals.

[quote="SFW":3rf0gwz5]Knowles is more of an immediate concern as there is an option on Lees for next year. Ideally both will sign again but couldn't begrudge either of them an NRL move. We've 18 players off contract in the next 12 months, and up to 5 quota spots to play with. Of those there's only four I'd definitely want to keep and another 5 who should definitely be let go, so we should be salary competitive with recruitment and retention right now.[/quote:3rf0gwz5] Jeez that a lot of players. Possibly looking at a further rebuild. What’s McManus said on all this, has he lost interest?

[quote="Zig":cyzw6dh3]There is a guy ITK on the other Wigan forum, who is very well connected, and he is saying that Knowles to Dolphins and Lees to Wire are done deals.[/quote:cyzw6dh3] The guy from fir tree farm?

[quote="[Gareth]":3nv2a2ae]The guy from fir tree farm?[/quote:3nv2a2ae] Yes.