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| Winnable, v winnable. Their 21 looks quite average.
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| Quote ="the-bearded-lefty"Winnable, v winnable. Their 21 looks quite average.'"
Not sure you are allowing for the possible return of Meadows there Lefty!
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| This is certainly the most winnable of the games we have left. If we win it I can’t see Hull picking up points again.
Would be nice not to finish bottom.
We were certainly the worst team for the first 2/3 of the season but Hull have fallen to pieces now. If we’d won last week or the 1st game against Hull we’d be away and clear from them.
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| I agree that this is a winnable game. I had intended to go but with us flying out for the Catalan game on Wednesday, we have too much to do. We will have to watch it on TV.
Leeds did us a favour spanking Hull FC last night. The points difference is now only 43 and to be honest Hull FC looked dreadful, so we still have hope.
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| Quote ="Victor"I agree that this is a winnable game. I had intended to go but with us flying out for the Catalan game on Wednesday, we have too much to do. We will have to watch it on TV.
Leeds did us a favour spanking Hull FC last night. The points difference is now only 43 and to be honest Hull FC looked dreadful, so we still have hope.'"
Huddersfield or South of France- I think you e made. Sensible choice.
I agree that Hull are really poor. Unless it’s total incompetence it must be yet another unintended consequence of IMG shenanigans. So that’s us, Hull and Castleford who haven’t really pulled up trees who have run sub par squads as a result of their decision. Once they’ve got shot of us they must be hoping that things will improve otherwise what’s actually happened is standards have dropped which won’t help in negotiations for any tv renewal deal.
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| Quote ="BigTime"Huddersfield or South of France- I think you e made. Sensible choice.
I agree that Hull are really poor. Unless it’s total incompetence it must be yet another unintended consequence of IMG shenanigans. So that’s us, Hull and Castleford who haven’t really pulled up trees who have run sub par squads as a result of their decision. Once they’ve got shot of us they must be hoping that things will improve otherwise what’s actually happened is standards have dropped which won’t help in negotiations for any tv renewal deal.'"
I suppose it all depends on what the relegation criteria is. If just by playing in SL makes it easier to rack up ranking points & you know everyone else's score, where is the incentive to improve? You just need to ensure you score in the top 11 or risk being bottom depending on the scoring of Championship clubs.
I would love IMG/RFL to publish the ranking table based over the full term of SL. Be interesting to see where various teams were placed & far more representative than the last 3 years despite limited opportunities for promotion/relegation.
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| Opportunity lost. A collective losing of heads at crucial moments cost the Broncos. I appreciate that Natoli's ball carrying arm had clearly hit the floor and Rourke had planted the ball in the field of play but you cannot react like that and Huddersfield, who are poor themselves, made the most of the gifts handed out by the Broncos.
That was probably last chance saloon to get the chance to stick two fingers up to The RFL, Super League, IMG and Hull, as well.
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| That was an opportunity missed, however all is not lost. Our points difference has come down dramatically with Hull FC shipping points against Leeds.
We may avoid the wooden spoon by keeping points against down and hoping that Hull FC ship points. With less than fifty points difference we have a chance. I live in hope.
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| Aaaaaaah stupidity
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| Spirit in your team is incredible despite the bear losses.
Hull F C on the other hand are diabolical.
All is notyet lost.
IMG and the RFL should hang their heads in shame.
Rugby League is not just about the top division.
You are only as strong as your weakest teams and to see Halifax and Whitehaven struggling financially when the areas have such strong amateur sides is criminal.
RFL in particular really need to be looking at a better way of funding the lower leagues.
Increasing super league to 14 teams and combining the championship and league one would be a good start.
Ensuring these teams get the opportunity to play super league teams via a cup competition is vital to providing the funds that the RFL clearly can't would be a financial lifeline.
Good luck in your next 2 games. It would be good to embarrass Hull FC, the RFL and IMG by London edging off that bottom rung before the season ends
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| Quote ="ricardo07"Spirit in your team is incredible despite the bear losses.
Hull F C on the other hand are diabolical.
All is notyet lost.
IMG and the RFL should hang their heads in shame.
Rugby League is not just about the top division.
You are only as strong as your weakest teams and to see Halifax and Whitehaven struggling financially when the areas have such strong amateur sides is criminal.
RFL in particular really need to be looking at a better way of funding the lower leagues.
Increasing super league to 14 teams and combining the championship and league one would be a good start.
Ensuring these teams get the opportunity to play super league teams via a cup competition is vital to providing the funds that the RFL clearly can't would be a financial lifeline.
Good luck in your next 2 games. It would be good to embarrass Hull FC, the RFL and IMG by London edging off that bottom rung before the season ends'"
It wouldn't though. It means either sharing the pie fourteen ways instead of twelve or further reducing the pie that is split by everyone outside of Super League. Both are pretty awful ways of utilising whatever little funds the sport has.
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| If only we had a kicker. That has been said before, if I remember correctly.
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| Quote ="Victor"If only we had a kicker. That has been said before, if I remember correctly.'"
Many times Victor many times.
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| Quote ="Deadcowboys1"Many times Victor many times.'"
…..but not by any of our recruitment team over the last few seasons!
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| Quote ="BigTime"…..but not by any of our recruitment team over the last few seasons!'"
Funny that innit?
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| Quote ="Deadcowboys1"Funny that innit?'"
Possibly they are keeping their heads down after the Coleman debacle where they bigged up both Coates and Ramsey’s kicking abilities IIRC. Latter never got a chance to show us what he could do. Former perhaps wishes he hadn’t.
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| Quote ="BigTime"Possibly they are keeping their heads down after the Coleman debacle where they bigged up both Coates and Ramsey’s kicking abilities IIRC. Latter never got a chance to show us what he could do. Former perhaps wishes he hadn’t.'"
The bizarre thing is Oli is 5th on the all time London goal kickers behind Steve Diamond, Paul Sykes, John Gallagher & Tony Martin. I suspect some behind him like Purdo, Brett Warton & Greg Barwick had better conversion rates.
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| Greg Barwick was good.
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| Quote ="Victor"Greg Barwick was good.'"
Excellent Centre & when you consider in 1997 we had both Barwick & Terry Matterson kicking goals. Those were the days.
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| Quote ="RfE"https://youtu.be/kmuIBkDYCz0?si=Hn14OPlaVwz-gGup
If the link works it should be to Mike Eccles post match interview
For me that’s the game we had the best chance of winning one of our last three games gone.'"
Answer to the final question at the post match interview tells a big story. We really have gone down the not recruiting or retaining route. Who says planning is key to success! I wonder if Eccles is having a think about his own position- next year looks a massive hospital pass to me. As for the impact on all those IMG markers like attendance, local engagement and social media hits - a struggling Championship team will impact on our score for years to come.
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| Quote ="Deadcowboys1"The bizarre thing is Oli is 5th on the all time London goal kickers behind Steve Diamond, Paul Sykes, John Gallagher & Tony Martin. I suspect some behind him like Purdo, Brett Warton & Greg Barwick had better conversion rates.'"
Is that number of conversions or number as a percentage of attempts. If it’s the latter we must have had some stinkers or only ever scored right in the corner.
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| Quote ="BigTime"Is that number of conversions or number as a percentage of attempts. If it’s the latter we must have had some stinkers or only ever scored right in the corner.'"
It's number of goals, can't find anything on % & I assume up to date.
Diamond 305, Sykes 287, Gallagher 197, Martin 182 & Oli on 168 with Purdo on 166. Wharton has 154 & Barwick 138 both from much fewer appearances. Obviously if Dixon had stayed, he'd be well up there.
One issue I think we have is the lack of real pace in the backs so we are rarely in a position to run in under the sticks from deep.
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| Quote ="Deadcowboys1"It's number of goals, can't find anything on % & I assume up to date.
Diamond 305, Sykes 287, Gallagher 197, Martin 182 & Oli on 168 with Purdo on 166. Wharton has 154 & Barwick 138 both from much fewer appearances. Obviously if Dixon had stayed, he'd be well up there.
One issue I think we have is the lack of real pace in the backs so we are rarely in a position to run in under the sticks from deep.'"
Boafo used to be pretty quick but he’s not featured this season
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| Quote ="Deadcowboys1"It's number of goals, can't find anything on % & I assume up to date.
Diamond 305, Sykes 287, Gallagher 197, Martin 182 & Oli on 168 with Purdo on 166. Wharton has 154 & Barwick 138 both from much fewer appearances. Obviously if Dixon had stayed, he'd be well up there.
One issue I think we have is the lack of real pace in the backs so we are rarely in a position to run in under the sticks from deep.[/
Yes I think that is right. In any event as we don’t appear to be prepared to recruit we’re unlikely to upgrade on backs or kickers. On the plus side we can agree to never do a short drop out ever again. The positives from that tactic have been dwarfed by the negatives.
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