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| I did not realise he left the club at the end of the season. Article on the offy now saying that he has rejoined due to our shortage at HB/HK. No offence to him, and good luck but i hope this is not an indication of our (lack) of signings for the coming season.
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| Quote ="Honkytonk" but i hope this is not an indication of our (lack) of signings for the coming season.'"
what else do you think it could be?
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| 8 players released and replaced by 1 and a handful of kids.
Signs are not looking too good!
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| Quote ="Jossy B"8 players released and replaced by 1 and a handful of kids.
Signs are not looking too good!'"
No doubt it'll be defended to the hilt by some fans, but I really can't see the point of being propped up for another year with a target of top 4 at best......
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| Don't think it's defending it to the hilt.
It's called being a fan and supporting the team.
Interesting in what you think the point is though! Or are you suggesting we all pack up and do something else on a Sunday afternoon?
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Don't think it's defending it to the hilt.
It's called being a fan and supporting the team.
Interesting in what you think the point is though! Or are you suggesting we all pack up and do something else on a Sunday afternoon?'"
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He's like a badly rehed Donald Trump...it took him nearly 4 minutes of edited interview to say the ground was better than the Hive whilst lamenting the fans we lost when we left Brentford and Twickenham and that the Kids could play on the same park as their tier 2 first level "heroes" and that (incorrectly) Brentford was south west London and that the access was easier, when the train station is closed on match day...... .......and 27 months after this interview guess where we are....further away from SL then ever and in a stadium with no chances of being developed to SL standard.....but you reckon Sunday afternoons just won't be the same without the bi-weekly trip to the wedding venue?
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| Quote ="northernbloke"It's called being a fan and supporting the team.'"
so to be a "fan" you need to follow the head lemming and the other devoted lemmings over the edge of the cliff?
Davies wasn't good enough, but now he somehow is......that's pi55 poor recruitment and won't add to the masses flocking to the games in 2018.....therefore we will still be reliant on Hughes and nothing will change.....
...what was it Einstein used to say about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome?
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| I'm with CMG (not on the whole history of DH as I cant be d on that), this recruitment is so underwhelming. I assume if there was something better to come it might have been mentioned, but my fear is we don't replace Judas and Barthau with anything like the quality, and whilst Roqica and Offerdahl were cart horses, they still need replacing with, ideally, stallions !
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| DH has got just what he wants in his head coach position. A guy who just didn't expect the offer but took it as most would(Like Powell) as its unlikely a asst coach who is seen a bit of a joker would get a shot elsewhere. He isn't going to rock the boat and ask for money. Im sure DH said make the most of what you have as we are FT we will get in the mid 8 on fitness alone with the core players we have. (maybe this is why Hendo said he had taken it as far as he could).
NB im bemused by your comments about being a fan. Ive had ST's for 20 plus years and will keep watching but that doesn't mean I should be positive about the situation. We are in a mess and spiralling downwards at an alarming rate.
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| can't see the point of being propped up for another year with a target of top 4 at best......
Merely commenting on this. Just asked the question which quite interestingly was not answered.
So if there is no point why do we bother going to the wedding venue as dog phrases it?
For me! It's because I am a rugby league fan, and Broncos are my chosen team, like you WQ am not happy with the situation but does not mean am going to take the attitude of what's the point and give up on em. Can't see the point in moaning whinging about everything when in fact you can't change it!
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| Jamie Soward has tweeted saying the Broncos will do well this season under the new management. I wonder whether he wants to come back?
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| Maybe as a coach- ? player coach
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Quote can't see the point of being propped up for another year with a target of top 4 at best......
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Merely commenting on this. Just asked the question which quite interestingly was not answered.'"
I've never swerved a question on these boards and won't now. I'd ask Hughes what HE WANTS........If he has a masterplan that we're unaware of then it's about time he either asked for help or changed the entire plan because guess what.......it's not working. If he is happy to write the cheque for 2 million a year, then why not employ someone who knows what they are doing and let them get on with it......but piddling about with average coaches and average players costing him SL type money is pointless and someone needs to tell him.......well, in fact, 4,000 odd people have told him with their feet and there's nobody left with the gumption to tell him he's wrong.......
...as for packing up and doing something else on a Sunday. That's going to happen sooner rather than later anyway, so why prolong the agony....and it would seem that the majority of London Broncos fans over the last 20+ years would agree with me....which why TrailFINDERS is so great for those few left behind with no queues for the loos (both of them) or at the bar........and plenty of space to walk about (so long as it's not muddy)...so yes, if 2018 delivers what the previous years have done in mediocrity with no chance of anything else then yes, I'd recommend you head to the Skolars.......or the Hoists, or any other club that isn't run like a blokes personal toy that he thinks (as you do) that we should be grateful for......last time I looked we paid our entrance fees, bought our shirts and are therefore entitled to an opinion!
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| Hmmm interesting, you still never gave a straight answer.
So are you suggesting the club should fold? (Simple yes or no)
As for your suggestion, no I wouldn't go and watch the financial and sporting success that is skolars.
And you are aware that hoists are an amateur team, besides too busy in the middle when it comes to HHH, by the way they play on sat.
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| Strange thing is that I heard that Jamie Soward was coming back to the Broncos to coach. I could not and still cannot see it. However.
This was just before Wardy was appointed to replace Hendo. I thought that this was not likely as it appeared he did not leave on the best of terms and his coaching experience is limited.
My thinking was it was Hendos job he was in for. Now if it is Jamie Langleys U19s job that may be different.
I know Soward was doing TV work in Aus. When I have seen him he looked quite good.
It was said that he was going to join the coaching team at Penrith, maybe he is looking to spend some time over here coaching before an vacancy comes at the Panthers.
The visa thing may be a problem though. If it is true.
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| Quote ="Bostwick"Strange thing is that I heard that Jamie Soward was coming back to the Broncos to coach. I could not and still cannot see it. However.
This was just before Wardy was appointed to replace Hendo. I thought that this was not likely as it appeared he did not leave on the best of terms and his coaching experience is limited.
My thinking was it was Hendos job he was in for. Now if it is Jamie Langleys U19s job that may be different.
I know Soward was doing TV work in Aus. When I have seen him he looked quite good.
It was said that he was going to join the coaching team at Penrith, maybe he is looking to spend some time over here coaching before an vacancy comes at the Panthers.
The visa thing may be a problem though. If it is true.'"
Cant see it.
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| Not sure what Jamie would be like as a coach, as a player we know he was talented, but he could lose his cool at times when things didn't go his way. How that carries over to managing a bunch of blokes and getting the best out of em am not sure.
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| Quote ="northernbloke"So are you suggesting the club should fold? (Simple yes or no)'"
I am not suggesting that the club fold......I am saying that if it continues along it's current path, it WILL FOLD! Hope that's the straightforward answer that you were looking for!
Quote ="northernbloke"As for your suggestion, no I wouldn't go and watch the financial and sporting success that is skolars.'"
2 things here.
Firstly. I don't now of anyone who would support a club based on it's fiscal performance......but I do know that the Skolars pretty much stand on their own 2 feet.
Secondly.....dating back to 1995, both clubs have had their "trials", but only one was given about $30,000,000 in central funding and a leg up to the top table, combined with quite probably another 30,000,000 in private funding, all of which it pe'd up the wall and is now heading for mid table mediocrity in 2018....the Skolars know their level and have been happily spreading the RL gospel in their own patch with little help from their supposed bigger neighbours.....our disregard and arrogance saw us taken off the Menu at the annual city Challenge which IL was more than happy to step into......but no, you carry on kneeling at the feet of your saviour!
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| Kneeling at the feet of your saviour!!!! Interesting comment
Nah it's supporting my chosen club through bad times as well as good! Actually it's what most folk on this forum actually do that's why they argue so passionately.
Not sure why anyone would wish the club gone because they disapprove of the owner which seems to be the approach of one or two, odd approach
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Not sure why anyone would wish the club gone because they disapprove of the owner which seems to be the approach of one or two, odd approach'"
Where have I said I wanted the club gone? Pointing out that it is going to fold at some stage if the owner continues down the current path isn't wanting it gone. Why did you try to twist what I am saying...are you looking for some imaginary validation or support for your myopic attitude to Hughes? I am 100% right about where we are and how we got there.....all you offer in rebuttal is opinion. I was the one screaming the loudest as the bus driver drove us over the edge and all I got was a slap down from the disciples of St David.....
And I too am a fan of the club through good times and bad.....but at present I see no chance of their ever being good times again and therefore reserve the right to repeatedly point out what they are doing wrong repeatedly!!!
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| Quote ="Call Me God"but only one was given about $30,000,000 in central funding and a leg up to the top table, combined with quite probably another 30,000,000 in private funding, all of which it pe'd up the wall and is now heading for mid table mediocrity in 2018d040.gif'"
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| No dog, you constantly campaign for DH to walk. What you seem unable to accept is is if DH decides he has had enough tomorrow, no one is going to step in, that was proven last time he nearly had enough, we ended up with 6 staff on the payroll.
Your comment was "what's the point"? To me that's someone who thinks we should give up, not twisting at all just reading your words.
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| Quote ="northernbloke"No dog, you constantly campaign for DH to walk. What you seem unable to accept is is if DH decides he has had enough tomorrow, no one is going to step in, that was proven last time he nearly had enough, we ended up with 6 staff on the payroll.
Your comment was "what's the point"? To me that's someone who thinks we should give up, not twisting at all just reading your words.'"
The last time we had a complete clusterknob as CEO who did nothing other than cover his own 'arris from day one and by the time we got spanked at Leigh By Wigan, any one of the apostles and Christ himself would have had enough......
I say "what is the point"...and then continue with "...doing the same thing over and over and not getting the message that what you're doing isn't the right thing".........Hughes ca stay....his money can stay......but for gods sake, employ someone with drive and vision to get us nearer self sufficiency. All he ever employs are YES MEN.
It is an established business fact that when a private company goes public, the best course of action is to make the original owner CEO and stick a managing director between them and direct control.......therefore limiting the original owner from carrying on as before but with shareholders cash at risk.......this is exactly what should have happened a decade ago and is still a valid course of action now if you want the club to survive!........I have no knowledge of Jason Loubser other than he is an accountant who is responsible for the financial well-being of the club......I am sure he's a lovely fella but fiscally, we are no less reliant on Hughes than we ever were........Einstein had a saying about doing the same thing over and over gain.....
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| Give over living in the past fella you can't change it. What you think should have happened 10 years ago didn't, nowt can be done about it.
Reality check unless you have a few million each year to spend each you ain't gonna change the future either.
We are a championship club, we are playing at the level we should be at, for the moment our super days are over, not to say that will not change.
As for being self sufficient, not many clubs are so why should we be any different.
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Reality check unless you have a few million each year to spend each you ain't gonna change the future either. '"
We have a couple of million each year........and we continue to waste it!
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