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| From our chairman in todays programme.
''I feel i must apologise to our faithful fans on behalf of the club for our late start in terms of assembling a squad and settling on a new home. Gus Mackay our ceo has come in for a lot of criticism and this is unfair because it was down to me. I was in a dilemma whether to carry on in Oct there wasn't going to be a club. We were at a crossroads.
Happily we decided to carry on but it took a long time to finalise the deal with the Hive. However it did mean that were behind the curve in assembling a squad. A number of the players come from Down under which means they have to apply for a visa to work here. Theres no quick way of processing this - Australian visas go to Manila. So when we sign players it could take up to six weeks for them to get a visa to travel here.That's not peculiar to our club but due to the lateness of our start it affected us more.
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| Quote ="Snoopy"From our chairman in todays programme.
''I feel i must apologise to our faithful fans on behalf of the club for our late start in terms of assembling a squad and settling on a new home. Gus Mackay our ceo has come in for a lot of criticism and this is unfair because it was down to me. I was in a dilemma whether to carry on in Oct there wasn't going to be a club. We were at a crossroads.
Happily we decided to carry on but it took a long time to finalise the deal with the Hive. However it did mean that were behind the curve in assembling a squad. A number of the players come from Down under which means they have to apply for a visa to work here. Theres no quick way of processing this - Australian visas go to Manila. So when we sign players it could take up to six weeks for them to get a visa to travel here.That's not peculiar to our club but due to the lateness of our start it affected us more.'"
Well perhaps he shouldn't have told us 3 years ago he was in it for 3 years.
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| Maybe he should have been available at the last game at the Stoop to explain how he felt and what he was going to do instead of hiding from fans. Maybe when things were finalised he should have sent mail shots, maybe he should have thought about not everyone having computer access to know what was going on, maybe he should have sacked Gus. He did none of this hence a low crowd today and probably most were away fans. You reap what you sew and we wont all go along blindly because it is LONDON.
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| Quote ="rosetintedspecs"Maybe he should have been available at the last game at the Stoop to explain how he felt and what he was going to do instead of hiding from fans. Maybe when things were finalised he should have sent mail shots, maybe he should have thought about not everyone having computer access to know what was going on, maybe he should have sacked Gus. He did none of this hence a low crowd today and probably most were away fans. You reap what you sew and we wont all go along blindly because it is LONDON.'"
I can confirm most were not away fans. Maybe 15%.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"I can confirm most were not away fans. '"
It was the most Salford have ever brought though.
Crowd would have been sub 1,000 without them.
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| Quote ="Cowgirl Nostalgist"It was the most Salford have ever brought though.
Crowd would have been sub 1,000 without them.'"
They brought a good following, I agree. But not the majority by a long shot.
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| This means only around 1000 London fans to see an opener and include some of them as local newbies and others as barnet fans - this doesnt leave many broncos fans - if nothing else the message should get across there is something seriously wrong with Broncos. They have last most of the hard core fans but until people get their heads out of the sand this will only get worse. DH, GM AND RED HALL have to see the club is dying due to ineptitude all round. Nothing to excite you on the pitch and a badly run club is not going to get loyal fans back. And before people spout off they are not loyal fans - these are the very people who broke their backs for 20-30 years to get the club going both in time, money and true commitment.
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| Quote ="rosetintedspecs"This means only around 1000 London fans to see an opener and include some of them as local newbies and others as barnet fans - this doesnt leave many broncos fans - if nothing else the message should get across there is something seriously wrong with Broncos. They have last most of the hard core fans but until people get their heads out of the sand this will only get worse. DH, GM AND RED HALL have to see the club is dying due to ineptitude all round. Nothing to excite you on the pitch and a badly run club is not going to get loyal fans back. And before people spout off they are not loyal fans - these are the very people who broke their backs for 20-30 years to get the club going both in time, money and true commitment.'"
Everyone just needs to suck it up. It was good. Get to the games.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"Everyone just needs to suck it up. It was good. Get to the games.'"
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| we are part of the group of pensioners who can no longer go to games, transport is double the cost and we have lost concessions and have to pay twice as much as we are over 60 but under 65 years of age. This is something else the club should have sorted with Barnet but didnt. To go to a game now equates to £45 each instead of £25 and this is not acceptable. The government give a pension at 60 years old, they give heating and fuel allowance and free prescriptions because you are on less income. The club charge you more. Whilst this is a small thin g to younger people and wage earners it is a massive thing to pensioners and future pensioners. It is a big sum of money for lower paid people.
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| I should also said this is increase in costs is without the cost of something to eat or drink
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| I should also said this is increase in costs is without the cost of something to eat or drink
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| Quote ="rosetintedspecs"I should also said this is increase in costs is without the cost of something to eat or drink'"
Unless you're travelling along way you don't need to eat / drink with a 3.00pm KO. I didn't.
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| yep far enough to need a cup of tea but as you rightly say not food
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| Just curious, which 60 year olds do the government give a pension to?
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| Cheers Hughsey
If you can't go you can't go. That's life. Took me 2 hours to get there but so be it.
Go and watch Chelsea!!
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| Quote ="Snoopy"From our chairman in todays programme.
However it did mean that were behind the curve in assembling a squad. A number of the players come from Down under which means they have to apply for a visa to work here. Theres no quick way of processing this - Australian visas go to Manila. So when we sign players it could take up to six weeks for them to get a visa to travel '"
I would love to hear why there is a delay as everything gets send to manilla. It is a stupid statement. DH committed to 3 years which he very nearly went back on. And then he says the manilla processing is to blame.
I am sure rooster and gutters can back me up here. But uk immigration anz everything is processed in auckland. Manilla do have a step in the process but everything is gathered and scanned to them electronically from auckland!!
but it still does'nt matter where it the bloody things are processed, For every problem it means that there are issues upstream, it is not manilla or aucklands fault we are in this mess.
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| Quote ="Snoopy" Gus Mackay our ceo has come in for a lot of criticism and this is unfair because it was down to me. I was in a dilemma whether to carry on in Oct there wasn't going to be a club. We were at a crossroads.'"
October 2013? Why were we scurrying around in August 2012 then....was that you too?
Spin seems to be the order of the day.....the club has been in terminal decline during this year licence period. If hughes couldn't be d, why did he bother applying for one?
And Gus is to blame.....following orders is not an excuse of a strong leader, but a scared idiot
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| If DH thinks Gus is coming in for stick because of events since last October he really does need a reality check. He has been a disaster since walking in the door.
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| DH committed to a 3 year licence. His terrible decisions brought the club to the brink of destruction and sees us nailed on for relegation. It is going to take more than a few programme notes for him to redeem himself.
Add to the that the way the club have treated all and sundry through this process via his henchman Gus.
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| Message to DH you need a new CEO
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| Hi this is not a dig at what I believe is a genuine question from you. Women retire at 60 years old and it is gradually being steeped towards 66years of age over the next 5 years. Or at least I believe it is a five year span but I could be wrong on the timing element. They will gradually be in line with men on retirement. The female partners of Broncos fans who retire before 65 years have had their concessions removed and believe it or not it is enough to lose fans over as if the wife can't come along the husband also stops attending. Now after 2 years as a concession I have to pay in full from my pension for a period of three years. Due to costs I cant afford to do it and therefore after 20 years I have to give up being a supporter. I agree the club needs to make money but they are discounting family tickets where probably one or two wage earners exist, they are letting kids in for a pound. DOnt get me wrong I think this is admirable and needs to be done to get people back through the gates. I do not have a problem with cutting conecssions for men under 65 as they are still in a wage earning category but the only people who seem to be singled out to lose their concession are the female pensioners and I find this totally wrong.
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| Quote ="rosetintedspecs"Hi this is not a dig at what I believe is a genuine question from you. Women retire at 60 years old and it is gradually being steeped towards 66years of age over the next 5 years. Or at least I believe it is a five year span but I could be wrong on the timing element. They will gradually be in line with men on retirement. The female partners of Broncos fans who retire before 65 years have had their concessions removed and believe it or not it is enough to lose fans over as if the wife can't come along the husband also stops attending. Now after 2 years as a concession I have to pay in full from my pension for a period of three years. Due to costs I cant afford to do it and therefore after 20 years I have to give up being a supporter. I agree the club needs to make money but they are discounting family tickets where probably one or two wage earners exist, they are letting kids in for a pound. DOnt get me wrong I think this is admirable and needs to be done to get people back through the gates. I do not have a problem with cutting conecssions for men under 65 as they are still in a wage earning category but the only people who seem to be singled out to lose their concession are the female pensioners and I find this totally wrong.'" Sympathise but can't answer your question. I'm well above the 60/65 mark so not affected by the transitional issues. Been a concessionary ST holder for 10+ years and always thought it was ridiculously cheap. Only planning on visiting the Hive a couple of times this year because of travel issues so don't really mind if I have to pay more.
Have you tried debating your issue with the club?
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| I was just looking at the prices and when you click on the tab you still are directed to the stoop. I have to say this is a little poor, it isn't too much to ask to change this, or even delete the page, it's a quick job.
on the note of pricing, it's also disappointing to see that students no longer get concessions. Especially with trent park uni only down the road and have a rugby league team. also I'd like them to offer more to universities, if they don't already, there is a thriving league and take say Cambridge who are coached by Andy champ run their pre varsity training at Hull kr. There is a market there of students who will probably end up working in London.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"They brought a good following, I agree. But not the majority by a long shot.'"
It was only around Thursday Salford announced they were able to run a second coach to the game, and I would not expect 100's to come by car. Late last night when I got home someone had posted a photo of the Salford fans, and the stand is very low at the end, and you could count them virtually, and they were not a majority.
But as I have often said before, it is when we put a team together and are getting some wins hopefully, we really push the marketing!
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