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| The RFL have postponed the EG meeting scheduled for Wednesday so they can concentrate on clearing up the mess left by their inability to market the RLWC as well as their failure to attract a brass farting in corporate coin to the game.
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Given London Broncos were awaiting some decisions from this meeting in regards to a number of key areas that will immediately impact on out ability to start 2014 with a squad of any description, I see us as dead in the water.
What is most galling about the whole process, is that if IL is successful later down the track (December) in securing more club control over the Super League, then with people like him in charge, we would have had a real chance of making a go of it.....instead, all the work done in the last 18 seasons will go down the drain in an avalanche of negative publicity in the region.
The RFL should hang their heads in shame yet again.....they really have no ing idea what they are doing and whilst protecting their "individual" rights to feed at the trough, they have set the game back (commercially) 20 years +
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| Pre-season training starting in about 4 weeks time at most clubs. Not looking good for LB when you put it into that context.
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| Stupid headline! one of the points the come out of Super League meeting which took place in Warrington is 14 team Super League may be considered again. Woods plans are rejected by a majority of clubs, so his weak claim of concentrating on The World Cup seems a total joke.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"...
Given London Broncos were awaiting some decisions from this meeting in regards to a number of key areas that will immediately impact on out ability to start 2014 with a squad of any description, I see us as dead in the water.
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Turkeys voted for Christmas then?
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| There is only one turkey, and he heads up the RFL, along with his side kick, even up to last night they had a PR exercise plan to visit fans at one club to explain their Master Plan, one clearly that so many said from the start was a simple no started, but when Woods sent out the document for the EGM he was still stating his plan was certain to go through! how short sighted. The man's career seemed to have been like playing a poker game, was even the date for tomorrow set thinking no one would stand up against him so close to The World Cup.
But the Majority of Super League Clubs at yesterdays meeting of Super League Clubs have at last woke up and seems accepted that one man can't control the game like he does, especially one that has not really been gifted with great success, in fact why was he ever given the post after his tenure at Halifax?
Yes it does shorten the lead time we have as a club for next season, but as I said yesterday we were looking to watch South Sea players in the World Cup and have discussions with them.
Super League Clubs have to operate like the clubs in Football & Union Premierships and run the elite leagues, under the banner of The RFL, who should really administrate the general game of the rugby league.
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| Quote ="jaybs"There is only one turkey, ... '" Inaccurate reference, followed, once again, by the usual blah.
You know, jaybs. if I were on a personal crusade to turn every thread into the character assassination of one individual, I would take the trouble to ensure that I had his name right.
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| Quote ="jaybs"Stupid headline! '"
Are you referring to the topic title?
Put it this way, we were asking for a number of concessions from the RFL and these were all up for discussion at the EGM. The RFL have run for the hills, praying for the RLWC 2013 to deliver a result that makes their position stronger, but in reality, the cat has been let out of the bag, the can of worms opened and Pandora's box had had the lid blow off. Given we are the smallest club in the current comp, then I would suggest that bigger fish will be fried before us and we may well end up an "acceptable" casualty.
Either way, no news on 2014 for the London Broncos until at least November 30th......9 weeks before the start of the season. We have no squad and pre-season training starts at most clubs in 3 weeks time. We have no ground, our new investor wont move without communication with the sports governing body and have no other means on income other than the lessening goodwill of our benefactor.
Quote ="jaybs"one of the points the come out of Super League meeting which took place in Warrington is 14 team Super League may be considered again.'"
So what? we have no squad and pre-season starts in 3 weeks. We can sign all the PI players we care to, but without ratification from the sports governing body and the other clubs, it will be pointless......
Quote ="jaybs"Woods plans are rejected by a majority of clubs, so his weak claim of concentrating on The World Cup seems a total joke.'"
He is a ing idiot.....but he's not the first at the RFL and he wont be the last.
Personally, if I were Ian Lenagan, I'd be on the blower to SKY sports now preparing to pull the rug from under the entire lot of them on November 30th!
UK RL has been run as an amateur sport for too long......and the irony of that isn't lost on me and nor should it be anyone else. The RFL bigwigs who will be paraded on the pitch during the RLWC should be accompanied by the tune of the closing credits of the original Italian Job!
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| The good old approach with tackling organisational change, ignore fundemental issues core to the delivery long enough, and perhaps they will go away!!
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Are you referring to the topic title?
UK RL has been run as an amateur sport for too long......and the irony of that isn't lost on me and nor should it be anyone else. The RFL bigwigs who will be paraded on the pitch during the RLWC should be accompanied by the tune of the closing credits of the original Italian Job!'"
Yes just the thread title, little dramatic, remember coming out of Knowlsey Road after Sunday matches when I was in my early teens, a guy outside in grey mac, with a sign "The End is Nigh" many years later the world is still here, you seem to be often glass empty, were I like be half full! both of us will never change, I accept that.
Did you see the charade on Saturday night after the Premiership Final? it was 12 minutes after the whistle before they got around to looking at starting the presentations, when you look around Old Trafford it was virtually empty, then Woods & Berwick were more like Laurel & Hardy presenting the medals and cup, what an image they send out for what some still see as the greatest sport in the world.
Good to see that BARLA, administrators of amateur rugby league have also rejected the Woods Plans, does he not get the message.
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| It has been 31 days since Hull Kingston Rovers v London Broncos and I'd say that things have got worse than they already were.
With more players leaving in that month period and nothing changing to the matters that were already outstanding, I cannot see many positives emerging from the tattered mess that is the London Broncos. I suppose the biggest positive for 2014 was if there is a club left but I cannot see the club being competitive whatsoever whilst the club remain homeless and almost player less.
Blaming the RFL is incredibly poor as well. Yes, they have managed the game poorly but it wasn't them who held a gun to the head of David Hughes and forced him to appoint clowns and mess the club up.
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| Quote ="Moe Lester"Blaming the RFL is incredibly poor as well. Yes, they have managed the game poorly but it wasn't them who held a gun to the head of David Hughes and forced him to appoint clowns and mess the club up.'"
Moe, I can't really disagree with what you say,you agree The RFL has managed the game badly, but I will defend David Hughes in saying when appoints CEO's or Coaches of the club he does that I'm confident in good faith, his one fault if any is his loyalty to people he appoints.
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| Have been told today that the funds to run the club will run out in the first week of November. Anyone ANY news of what the f*** is going on??
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| The club have chosen a very bad time to try and force the RFL's hand. There are much bigger issues at play. We are probably stuffed.
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| So....we have no ground, no confirmed investors who I suspect require certain assurances from the RFL before they commit, no squad to speak of, not allowance to recruit more foreign players and apparently, from the end of this month, no more funds with which to pay our admittedly small wage bill.
The RFL have said they will not discuss anything (in public at least) until after the RLWC 2013, which ends about 30 days after we run out of cash. I suspect that Bradford's new owners will be ratified shortly, as the RFL need to protect their investment, but other than that, I believe they will be quite content to let us disappear.
Now, as passionately as I have defended this club from assaults and attacks by the northern masses over the years, I am actually of the opinion that it might be best if we were consigned to the knackers yard now, rather than have this doubt hanging over our heads.
Jaybs and co....I admire your optimism and your belief that we will be OK, but in reality, it is my belief that we are dead in the water.
The annoying thing in all this is that although the RFL are about as much use a chocolate tea pot, they did warn the club a number of times about sorting out certain things that, if we had listened, would have prevented the current situation.
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| I think you are correct although I expect the youth to survive.
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| Re the comment the RFL would be content to see us go. To be fair the RFL, and others in the RL world, have bust a gut trying to sort us out. They seemed to have brokered a deal only for it to fall down due to decisions beyond their control. It had reached the stage where the RFL wanted it sorting, they wanted a vote on us at the EGM suggesting they think we have reached the end of the road. If Ian Lenegan doesn't have a trick up his sleeve, or there is a dramatic change of heart from our financers,they are probably right.
Re the youth. My understanding is that the collapsed deal did include clauses that would have secured their medium term future.
Obviously that means little now and I don't have any info about what is going on, if anything, at the moment.
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| So far no news on Dixon though. When he leaves that will be the ball game I think.
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Calvin wrote a truly awful article about the CCup final calling RL fans extras from Phoenix Nights and like people on a works night out.
Not for me thanks.
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Calvin wrote a truly awful article about the CCup final calling RL fans extras from Phoenix Nights and like people on a works night out.
Not for me thanks.
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| Will try and tune in. That's an important discussion.
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| Will be interesting, but can't see any serious answers, Ralph Rimmer RFL will sit on the fence and just be positive.
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| I'm a Wigan fan but London Broncos are my second team. I'm devastated by their present predicament and hope a Koukash can come in to save them. Wigan have a great history but were going nowhere under Maurice Lyndsey and Brian Noble until Lenigan and Michael Maguire came to the club.
London had a generous owner but needed a Michael Maguire. There aren't many around, mores the pity.
Let's hope London rise from the ashes.
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| My view on this is the the CEO made a major mistake when before the start of last season he stated the Broncos would move from the Stoop which in my opinion blighted the whole season. Together with a team that were under performing, or was this their limit of performance, trying to grow a home crowd was always going to be difficult. Further the CEO has alienated supporters whether it is Broncos or local RL communities to the point where the Broncos as a club are in my opinion dead. It is easy to blame the RFL but the real culprit in this debacle is the CEO and DH who I find it difficult to have bank rolled the club yet put up with individual’s charged with running of the club.
If any one person should have left the club it is the CEO who I believe has been a complete disaster and how he has managed to keep his job is beyond my comprehension. Over the last couple of year since the CEO has been around, the club has moved further and further away from the paying punters, starting with scrapping of end of game awards on the grounds it upset the players, poor scheduling of off field events such as testimonial’s and of end of season awards. For example look at this year’s end of season awards which was a classic on non-communication when fans were informed by text from players that the awards has taken place with little if any general announcement.
We then have the long running saga of the ground, alienating support from Gillingham and totally blanking the Chairman of Gillingham FC and now the rumoured move to the Hive. In my humble opinion the Broncos have been totally screwed by poor management decisions at local level and in its present management structure deserves to die. What I find sickening here is the wreckage left behind and the side lining of long standing and recently recruited fans to the cause of RL in London. The game is too important to let London die but if it does then so be it, the youth section and regional teams such as Hemel and Skolars will be left to pick up the pieces. The sooner the CEO goes the better in my opinion since I generally believe should we manage to put a team out next year I have no confidence in either seeing a competitive team, nor any trust in the management of trying to grow interest in the Broncos.
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