According to Rammo, Louie isn't playing, Purdo at stand-off with Lamont at LF.
Krasniqi and Bolger on the bench with Ellis and Mills.

Gale is not injured - dropped.

Seems to have made b*gger all difference. Looks like we're heading for another rout.

18-0 down 20 odd minutes gone

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(1) Shaun Briscoe FULL BACK Luke Dorn (6)
(2) Peter Fox WINGER Jamie O'Callaghan (22)
(3) Kris Welham CENTRE Tony Clubb (3)
(15) Michael Ratu CENTRE David Howell (4)
(2icon_cool.gif Ben Cockayne WINGER Will Sharp (5)
(9) Scott Murrell STAND OFF Robert Purdham (13)
(7) Michael Dobson SCRUM HALF Chad Randall (9)
(20) Mick Vella PROP Danny Ward (17)
(17) Ben Fisher HOOKER Danny Orr (7)
(30) Joel Clinton PROP Oliver Wilkes (14)
(11) Clint Newton SECOND ROW Karl Temata (icon_cool.gif
(13) Ben Galea SECOND ROW Chris Melling (1)
(22) Liam Watts LOOSE FORWARD Lamont Bryan (25)

(icon_cool.gif Rhys Lovegrove SUBS David Mills (36)
(24) Scott Taylor Andy Ellis (20)
(10) Scott Wheeldon Olsi Krasniqi ( )
(21) Josh Hodgson Ben Bolger (2icon_cool.gif


(icon_cool.gif Rhys Lovegrove SUBS David Mills (36)
(24) Scott Taylor Andy Ellis (20)
(10) Scott Wheeldon Olsi Krasniqi ( )
(21) Josh Hodgson Ben Bolger (2icon_cool.gif

Dobson in-icon_sad.gif

Sounds like it is going to be another one of those afternoons. The dispirited collapse.

A hallmark of the McDermott era.

With Cas and Crewesaders winning outside chance of play offs are over.
The commentators are right, season is definitely over now.

<burns season ticket>

Something needs to be done. Whatever talk there was of a turn around in form, it's clear we don't have the squad to compete at the moment.

Even Salford at least seem to be competing in most of their recent games. Thanks to Catalan, we won't finish bottom, but this is going to end up as a pretty dire season.

we will have new personnel next year. I reckon big mac will go to Bradford which will bring new ideas.

Onward and upward. Double over Wigan next week?

Ok losing again i can just about put up with as its become the nor for us with the thin squad we have. BUT the constant trashing is now getting to me.

If we were carrying injuries before this game then why drop Gale and put Purds in at SO on his first game back. I know Gale didnt have the best of games last week,but to drop him now and expect Purds to have to be involved in the desion making is beyond me, IMO he just needed to be in the forwards and just do a job for us and not have to worry about anything.

But all that aside listening to this its just sounds like the same old habits are back from beginning of the season. Tackles going high or missed, no one backing up the ball carrier and then when we do or even make a break we just drop it.



People who know this game more then me might be able to me give some answers. I know its not down the fact they dont care about the club as they do you only have to chat with any of them to know that. So what is it i ask..



I know one thing its going to be a long week decideing if to go next week because i dont think i want to sit there and see Wigan run riot over us and have to listen to their fans jeering i just think that be the last straw for me and this season

With nothing realistically to play for, makes you wonder if they're gonna dish up this krud everyweek form now on inwards.

Good chance - his missus is back up North decorating their house and kids in school up there - what does that tell you?

After listening to that. you couldnt blame Mac if did go to the Bulls and work with a bigger squad.

But what new personnel are talking here, from what i understand the club dont have the money to bring in anyone. I heard a rumour that Penny was after a 2yr contract for a 100 grand. Now i dont no if that was a 100 grand per yer or over two years(50.000 per yr). If it was the 50 grand then i think that says alot about the state we might be in if we couldnt offer that. If it was the 100 grand then i coudnt blame the club for saying no but still you think if there had been money about they could have reached some sort of deal, as i understand that Penny was only on £45,000 up at Wire.

And on the other side of the coin if Mac does leave your not going to get anyone to sign until they know who or what sort of coach they be working with. I remember afew years back when we signed Barnett and Dymock and the likes,they signed because they thought they were going to work with John Monie only to turn up and find Tony Rea in charge and to start with they wasnt very happy about.

I sincerely hope so

Open the Champagne

Fingers crossed !!

Harlequins head coach Brian McDermott said there would be no doom and gloom from him despite the scoreline.

McDermott said: "I thought Hull KR were very good and I don't think there was one area where we were particularly poor, I thought we were probably down in every aspect.

"But I did not think we were that bad, certainly not as bad as the scoreline would suggest.

"We had a couple of soft occasions in defence which made me angry but some of the mistakes are the result of the way we play.

"We play hot at times and we force passes but with that style comes loose ball and you lose possession but you have to deal with it.

"As far as effort goes I cannot fault the players."

Just back and it wasn't good.

Agree with PP, it was not pretty to watch. The inconsistency of the team is as frustrating as ever. HKR were well deserved winners but were not as good as the scoreline suggests, they bombed a few scoring chances and so did we, but on the whole our performance was very flat. It`s worth remembering that we are very short of first choice players again, no sooner do we get Purdo back, LMS, Gale, Williamson, Esders are not available.....add Golden, BJB, Ben Jones to the list and we have the thinnest of squads. We can only replace these with inexperienced youngsters and we were never going to be able to match all the HKR imports for skill or size. Our more experienced players are trying hard (well done Karl T....it was a tough day for you yesterday), but they can`t do it on their own. Still it`s only Wigan next week

!!!

I think this hits it on the head. We are that skinny and just do not have enough depth in the squad to cover more than one or two injuries and if the injuries are to key players then we have no cover at all. All this when even with our full strenght team we are not quite good enough. Overall I am dissappointed in what Mac has been able to do as I thought he of all people would have seen the most important thing to do is build a good strong forward pack that can dominate. Once you have this it is a little easier to find classier backs as they want to play behind stong forward packs.
I thought Mac would have the ability to turn some good forwards into great forwards but he just does not seem to be able to improve players at all.

Hallmark no. 2 of the McDermott era: players stagnate or go backwards. No one ever seems to improve.

Do you remember a while back when he said that we'll have our run. I'm beginning to wonder if we have had it now: 3 super league games and one Challenge Cup game?

2 weeks ago I was hopeful of a top 8 slot now im looking at whats below