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| The U18s and U16s are both in action against Wigan this Saturday at the Military Stadium in Aldershot.
The U16s kick off at 1.15pm whilst the U18s kick off at 3pm - both teams would be very grateful for your support.
The address for the Military Stadium is:
Military Stadium, Queens Avenue, Hampshire GU11 2
Easy access- No ID etc required
Nice ground with a decent stand-free entry
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| does anyone know the nearest station and how far the ground is from the ground
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| Wire Quin - do you think the bar will be open?
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| Nearest Train station is North Camp which is a 10 min walk away along Queens ave
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| Quote ="east stander"Nearest Train station is North Camp which is a 10 min walk away along Queens ave'"
Splitting hairs I know but I'd suggest more like 20 minutes.
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| The sun is up in the 'Shot-get yourselves down there to see the Quins treble this weekend over the pies!!
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| Just watched 2 superb games between Quins and Wigan.
Wigan won the under 16 by 2 points and the under 18 by 10(2 late tries)
Plenty of talent coming through
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| Quote ="wire-quin"Just watched 2 superb games between Quins and Wigan.
Wigan won the under 16 by 2 points and the under 18 by 10(2 late tries)
Plenty of talent coming through'"
I hope you mean for us. Do you think there some X factor players coming through who will be 'above average standard' SL players. If we get a licence this time round we will need these lads to fill the ranks and meke sure we compete. Some have to push for international honours to give us some credibility in our 'we are producing quality young players' claim.
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| Two quality matches.
The U16 could have gone either way. The U18's should be kicking themselves they just needed to keep their heads when they made those clean breaks instead of forcing the play and applied some pressure. That's youthful exuberance for you. The future is indeed bright on those performances.
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| Unlucky the under 20's got beat 54 - 4
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| Yes I was really impressed with the U'16 and U'18 performances. There certainly are a number of highly promising lads coming through. Interestingly Phil Jones said that the U'18 side is very heavily made up of U'17s who have another year left at that level.
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| Quote ="Kenda"Yes I was really impressed with the U'16 and U'18 performances. There certainly are a number of highly promising lads coming through. Interestingly Phil Jones said that the U'18 side is very heavily made up of U'17s who have another year left at that level.'"
Could we get done for cheating?
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| Quote ="apostate"Could we get done for cheating?'"
depends on which set of books you find
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| Don't forget that most of Wigan's U20s are U18s, and the U18s are U16s.
Still, good to see that you've given arguably the best youth system in the country a run for their money, things look promising for you guys.
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| Quote Don't forget that most of Wigan's U20s are U18s, and the U18s are U16s'"
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| As over half of last year's U20s team are out on loan or played in the 1st team this week, surely they've been replaced by the U18s, who will in turn have been replaced by the U16s
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| Quote ="V For Vendetta"As over half of last year's U20s team are '" ....what, 20yrs of age or over now maybe?
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| Quote As over half of last year's U20s team are out on loan or played in the 1st team this week, surely they've been replaced by the U18s, who will in turn have been replaced by the U16s'"
So its an assumption rather than fact- a large number of Quins under 18's were well below the age threshhold including the number 1 who is an England rep.
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| At least ten of the Wigan team that played in the U20 game at Orrell on Saturday still qualify at U18 level. The majority of the U18s team that played at Aldershot are only 16.
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| I would say we have not had anything top notch emerge since 2006-2008 when the likes of Louie, Clubby, Mike Worrincy and Will Sharp emerged.
The best of the more recent crop are probably Lamont Bryan and Ben Bolger.
I am not sure whether the likes of Jamie O'Callaghan will make it despite a good number of run outs and at 23 Big Dave Williams has been a slow burner and the likes of Luke May never seem to be selected. However they have been better than the younger Northern imports who have signed on a permanent basis. Without exception they have nearly all returned to Bradford or the obscurity of the lower leagues having made ten or less appearances.
It is most likely to be in 2012 when the younger players emerge. The most promising players are likely to be those who have gained England representative honours for their age group. We have the two England schoolboys half backs in Stand Off Dan Sarginson and Scrum Half Mikey Bishay plus a fair collection of other positions where it is hard to develop youth e.g. Max Edwards the Hooker and a couple of tremendous Props such as Omari Caro.
It is many years since Saints and Leeds produced a large number of younger players who became an automatic first choice. Probably the best recent production line has been at Wigan. A quick look shows 10 non-English players with a jumper numbered between 1 and 17 - these are all none-English: (1) Phelps, (2) Roberts, (4) Carmont, (5) Richards, (7) Leuluai, (9) Riddell, (11) Hansen, (15) McIlorum (16) Bailey, (17) Paleaasina and (21) O'Carroll. However outside that the rest of the squad are Wigan born or Wigan trained or both. The Tomkins brothers are first class as are Mossop, Goulding and Ainscough and the two Irish front rowers have emerged and they may swap nationality if required by England.
For Quins to be successful we will need to be able to develop our own players with a number on their back between 18 and 30 to a standard where they are playable. Otherwise we will always be a team that goes well for the very short windows of opportunity when we have the luxury of 17 of our best 20 players available. This is very rare and 4-5 injuries is common these days and must be expected.
I think we will be able to contest for a place just outside the top 6, or 6 at best in a couple of years
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| Quote ="markrammond"and a couple of tremendous Props such as Omari Caro.'"
Caro is actually a winger
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| Quote ="Paddock Punter"Caro is actually a winger'"
has anyone told Btian Mac?
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| Quote (1) Phelps, (2) Roberts, (4) Carmont, (5) Richards, (7) Leuluai, (9) Riddell, (11) =#FF0000Hansen, (15) =#FF0000McIlorum (16) Bailey, (17) Paleaasina and (21) =#FF0000O'Carroll. '"
Aren't the 3 in red local trained?
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| Quote ="wire-quin"Aren't the 3 in red local trained?'"
Hansen, McIlorum and O'Carroll have all been at Wigan since they were teenagers. Hansen and O'Carroll since they were 14 and McIlorum since he was 16.
Hansen was from Folly Lane (Swinton), O'Carroll from Waterhead (Oldham) and McIlorum from Queens (Leeds)
All have represented England at academy level.
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| Quote ="V For Vendetta"As over half of last year's U20s team are out on loan or played in the 1st team this week, surely they've been replaced by the U18s, who will in turn have been replaced by the U16s'"
I dont think the date has passed yet that allows under 16s to turn out for the under 18s Academy. Think it used to be May 1st but not sure if that has changed.
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