I have trawled through 17 pages of predictions on the VT and apart from one guy who thought we would finish third! (he had Crusaders as top), the best that people thought was 9th.

Given that Mac will say we will win it, what do you think. My
view is that 10th is the best we can do unless, Orr, Purdham, Randall, LMS,Sharpe, Howell, Melling and Dorn have phenomenal seasons and more importantly avoid injury. If this unlikely scenario comes about we may make the playoffs.

I suspect we will get more of the same from the players you have mentioned- to me its what the 2 second rowers from Aussie bring to the team as they were both useless last year, in addition to what the new players offer.

Half way through last year we were sitting 4th with what looked like and easy run in-suddenly something went wrong-what that was only the team knows.

Mid table for me with a good run on injuries

After the horrific end to last season, I'm still approaching this one in a pretty negative mood. With my negative hat on, I'd predict 12th. With few injuries and no traditional end of season loss of form, then we could push towards the bottom end of the play-offs.

8th or 9th but I am more confident than I was at the end of last season. Looking at other sides who had good seasons last year only Giants look better than last year but only just

We always seem to play with enough heart to finish out of the bottom couple of places. No marquee players this year, so I really see no reason why would finish above 8th. So since im feeling optimistic....8th.

If the squad stay injury free 7th or 8th

13th or 14th

We look weaker than last year.

If I posted that I would be lambasted. So I waited for somebody else first. I agree.

8th without significant injury to Orr, Purdham, Howell or Randall.

Didn't somebody on here fancy a wager with me of some sort? What was it?

11th at best.

Thin squad, poor coach, traditional slide in form beginning in June.

I think the starting 13 are a good buch of players any were from 6th to 12th for me i predict a very open season this year

Hmmm....Salford will be better than last year probably, Hull and Bradford will be definitely, so unless someone like Wakefield falls apart, I think 13th (out of 13, when Crusaders fall apart).

On a totally different issue, how long will we have a + point difference?
I give it 2 minutes into our game with Wakey, then it will be - for the rest of the season.
But yea, i would say we will finish around 9-12, no magic in our squad, just some dull rugby players.

Sheeny-Why do you think the reds will be stronger? 1 year in SL I will accept but player wise what have they done?

I think we will finish in the top eight, but only just!!!

Top 4 as I am the eternal optimist!

Come on you Quins!!

(just watching sky sports with the catch up of the year, Brian Mac is talking a good talk

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1st. choice team is good enough to make the play-offs, but there doesn't seem to be anything in reserve. With Nobby coaching the Crusaders, if we have a bad injury run we could well finish bottom!

Salford are a selling club, I think morale is low and can't see them being much better than us IMO

10th if the club has a good season with injuries, 12th if not.

I think it all depends on whether the mysterious malaise that afflicted the squad over the closing months of last season has been properly rectified. If not we'll be potential wooden spoonists. If we can start this season as we did last we can finish around halfway. The ten wins from the first fifteeen games last season was the most prolonged spell of good form since the final year at Griffin Park and I don't think the current squad will be any weaker than the one that achieved those results. There will of course be the inevitable losing streak at some point when too many of our first choice players are out injured simultaneously.

You're not a Quins fan, optimistics make us sick

=#FF0000Im guessing you're talking about last season, not the Griffin park season, but do you honestly believe that? We might of improved our backs, which really we haven't even if it is Gafa that left. But our props are no where near the same standard as the ones that left, and thats worry.

3 of the props are the same people(LMS, Ward, KT)-We have lost Haggerty and Hecks who have been replaced with James and Big Dave(how many games did the H's play?)-We have an abundance of 2nd rowers who can move forward if need be.

Hard to be optimistic after the second half of last season. But we do have 7 or 8 young guys, some of whom just could come good. Robinson and Williamson have to be more effective than last year (please!). And none of the players we've lost was of any great use towards the end of last year.

But it's still hard to be optimistic.

Downers are that we don't have a real right centre, our halves probably aren't good enough (Orr will struggle for fitness and Gale needs to come on fast - maybe Ellis will play at one of the half-back positions?) our coach seemed at a loss last year to fix things that were going wrong, Bill Peden's replacement is an unknown quantity. And I worry about Purdo's fitness.

If everything goes right, we could finish as high as 5. If a few things go wrong, we could end up at 14. Probably about 11.