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| Are Listy's followers called the Listerines?
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| Quote ="Under the sticks"No whinging from me......I`ve got a good seat......booked early.'"
None from me either, I haven't got a seat and don't intend booking one either.
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Regarding the example.....good to see that you would accept all that was left......and have grasped the situation.'"
Yes because that's exactly what I said. I suggest you read it again and have a long hard think about it.
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Good to see that you accept the negativity on the basis that a potential supporter might not view the forum...let`s hope that works.'"
If any new supporter is unhappy with my posts, PM me and I will buy them a beer as an apology when they come to the Hull Away game.
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Regarding my own approach........as previously stated (but you choose to ignore) I can appreciate the club is not in good shape and can moan like anyone else........but I have not turned into a career. I have supported the club this far and if they are still around in a couple of years so will I.'"
You continue to muse about how the club opening 1 stand is acceptable and that its tough luck for any moaning later comers dragging their backsides along who are shoved in the front row while you enjoy your great seat, even though you would have come to the match regardless of where you sat. I have supported the club this far too, it doesn't sound like you will be particularly bothered when things go tits up in 2 years time though.
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Listy.......you are tell us quite often that the club are making a complete hash of everything, management is poor, improvement is required etc etc........perhaps you could expand on your experience in these areas and let us know what your business credentials are?'"
Perhaps you could expand on the things that you disagree with me about and where the club have done a spiffing job.
I'm finishing a business related degree this year with plenty of marketing involved in it, so don't you worry, I'll be putting my hand up when the time comes and could do a damn sight better than the current monkeys running the club
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| So your not going to the game....just about says it all really
Read it again....thought about it...already commented
Supporters not liking your posts........ever asked yourself why quite a few long term supporters (who still go to matches) do not bother posting on this forum any longer?
I am not musing about anything.....there is only one (possibly 2) stand/s open, accept the situation......I`ve got a good seat, you haven`t.
I have been a long term supporter, why would I not be bothered by the club going under?.........you can do better than that Listy.
I don`t profess to have any marketing/sales ability but you do........however I see you are still at school and have never had a job!!! Forgive me if I do not hold your business advice in to higher regard
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| Quote ="Under the sticks"So your not going to the game....just about says it all really'"
Yup, don't have the money sadly. What does that say about anything?
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Supporters not liking your posts........ever asked yourself why quite a few long term supporters (who still go to matches) do not bother posting on this forum any longer?'"
Nope. This isn't a concern for me like it obviously is to you. Why is this then? Any examples?
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I am not musing about anything.....there is only one (possibly 2) stand/s open, accept the situation......I`ve got a good seat, you haven`t.'"
Couldn't care less about my seat or yours. Again, your are failing to see the wider picture. Try reading Prince of Denmark's post again, maybe that will make it a bit clearer for you.
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I have been a long term supporter, why would I not be bothered by the club going under?.........you can do better than that Listy. '"
You seem to be fairly unconcerned with the club implementing strategies that will drive away new supporters rather than attracting them.
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I don`t profess to have any marketing/sales ability but you do........however I see you are still at school and have never had a job!!! Forgive me if I do not hold your business advice in to higher regard
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Its funny how much money graduates doing my degree can demand. I suppose they just give out such positions to anybody though. I know the idea of someone actually doing something positive for the club with regards to marketing it to new supporters scares you, but one day, it just might happen.
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| Quote ="Homer"Have to pick up on this point, it's a sports forum, same as a million others the world over in every sport conceivable and by the nature of all sports forums [although possibly slightly more jaundiced for RL polarised opinion will abound dependant upon results, players, coaches, tactics, Boards, facilites, opposition etc etc.
I truly cannot fathom why anybody who was considering being a new fan in any sport and who had searched the Internet to find a forum concerning their newly chosen team, would then abandon watching said team because of what they read on the Forum, contrary or otherwise to their own newly formed opinions..........if that was the case nobody would be watching any SL club this weekend let alone filling the stadiums for PL football.
When I first started to watch the Broncos my interest was increased by using Steve Morris's fantastic original Forum, but trust me that was a far more negative place to be than here [depending on what was happening at any given time with the club but it didn;t make one iota of difference to my opinion of the sport and the club.
The only place that could suffer as a result of negativity on a sports forum, is that forum itself, but by their very nature and within moderate boundaries, they are and should be places to express all opinions negative or otherwise.
Carry on now with the Listy baiting
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Be careful Homer, you nearly agreed with me there
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Be careful Homer, you nearly agreed with me there
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Don't be stupid you student sponger, as my old dad would say, when you have the marks of the cradle off your backside come back and argue
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| "Nope. This isn't a concern for me like it obviously is to you. Why is this then? Any examples?"
Like you say you are not bothered by other supporters (and I`m the one with wrong attitude?).....take a look back yourself, it should not take long to identify who does not post anymore or a lot less frequently....GOB, DSWG and others
Have read Prince of Denmarks post and already said that it would be good to have more stands open (you really must concentrate)
Apparently I am unconcerned about the plight of the club.........care to point out where I have actually said that?.......or does it only feature in `Listy World`
Good luck with the degree......you might need it. Why would I be scared of anyone doing something positive at the club, I welcome it........it would be great if the club were successful. Are you the person to turn things around?........I`ll get back to you.
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| Quote ="Under the sticks""Nope. This isn't a concern for me like it obviously is to you. Why is this then? Any examples?"
Like you say you are not bothered by other supporters (and I`m the one with wrong attitude?).....take a look back yourself, it should not take long to identify who does not post anymore or a lot less frequently....GOB, DSWG and others'"
Maybe The Gob and DSWG have better things to do than post on here? The Gob and I have exchanged text messages lately (apologies I didn't reply last time btw Mike), and last time I saw DSWG at a home game we had a chat. I think you're reading a bit too much into things. I don't think they have any problems with me anyway, nor any other users.
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Have read Prince of Denmarks post and already said that it would be good to have more stands open (you really must concentrate)'"
Interesting how you still think your plane examples holds up then...
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Apparently I am unconcerned about the plight of the club.........care to point out where I have actually said that?.......or does it only feature in `Listy World`'"
Do you retract your comment describing people who have the nerve not to buy a ticket in advance, and how they should be treated?
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Good luck with the degree......you might need it. Why would I be scared of anyone doing something positive at the club, I welcome it........it would be great if the club were successful. Are you the person to turn things around?........I`ll get back to you.'"
Cheers, degree is going well thanks. I'd like to see someone turn things around, but it won't be the current incumbents. Obviously the fundamental problem lies elsewhere but this is more clear cut, and you never know, maybe there was some evidence last week of this being sorted out.
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| "I don't think they have any problems with me anyway, nor any other users."...........and you accuse me of being blinkered!!
Yup example still holds........the whole stadium is not was is `actually` on offer, therefore if you want a ticket you have to make the best of what is available.
" Do you retract your comment describing people who have the nerve not to buy a ticket in advance, and how they should be treated?".........No, why should I......("have the nerve" is a nice emotive addition on your part by the way)..........I merely stated the facts, I planned ahead and have bought a good seat......if you drag your feet, backside, whatever, you can only make the best of what tickets are left. You made the bit up about `how they should be treated`.
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| Quote ="Under the sticks""I don't think they have any problems with me anyway, nor any other users."...........and you accuse me of being blinkered!!
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You know them personally then? Fair enough if so, I wasn't aware of this, especially after The Gob text me after the Catalans game.
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Yup example still holds........the whole stadium is not was is `actually` on offer, therefore if you want a ticket you have to make the best of what is available.'"
And then there is what should be available. I would be pretty frustrated if I got on a plane in a rubbish seat if half of it was empty for no good reason. Although I'm struggling to think of a seat on an aeroplane that would cause me distress. So your example is flawed even further.
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No, why should I......("have the nerve" is a nice emotive addition on your part by the way)..........I merely stated the facts, I planned ahead and have bought a good seat......if you drag your feet, backside, whatever, you can only make the best of what tickets are left. You made the bit up about `how they should be treated`.'"
This is why the club will go nowhere, as the club share this pathetic attitude.
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| Did someone mention "new fans" in a post
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Did someone mention "new fans" in a post
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Not important, apparently.'"
Quite
I can't believe the clubs apparent lack of activity since the Wakey game. Last year the RFL were responsible for the gate, the seating and the profit made.....all of which made for the biggest gate of the year, both sides open, a cracking atmosphere and a ROI in just 1 game.....
.....normal service has been resumed it would seem
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| Im with Listy on this one. Its a disgrace, Im hoping to bring 2 or 3 people to the game who cant confirm until today, so I couldnt get tickets in advance. As a result i will probably now be stuck on the edges, as according to the website all the good seats are gone. Why didnt the club use this as a marketing tool?? The main stand is nearly sold out so we are opening the south stand? Unallocated seats in the new stand behind the posts would be brilliant and id be more than happy to sit there. But I dont want to sit on the front row or the edges of the 1 stand thats open for a showpiece game. Its pathetic. Still no replica shirts for sale?? pathetic. The clubs marketing is pathetic and embarrassing. I will always support the club and get to all home games. But we dont deserve a SL place. We are not a professional operation.
If people want fans to stop moaning on here then the club needs to start behaving in a way that a SL club that respects the sport should.
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| Fans of Leeds and Wigan moan-There is no end to it. If it isnt marketing its the ground, style of play, sun in your eyes.........
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| after reading all the posts i wish i hadnt started this thread,i got our tickets in the etihad,not bad view and 30 quid for 4 tickets....bloody good value i think,and if the sun gets in my eyes ill pull my cap down a bit further.im not a marketing man so will leave it to those getting paid for it.i shall just enjoy seeing our lads playing the nrl champions and remember all those years ago at crystal palace playing 2nd division games.....now you would have had something to moan about back then re marketing etc.
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| Ok
Done my rounds, managed to get a crew of 8 together... gone to buy tickets online... only 6 single seats in different stands/areas available.
Now, do any of you find this acceptable? Please defend this?
I cant buy tickets to a game that has sold a small amount of tickets.
No wonder ticket sales are down.
I dont even know if I will bother tomorrow. Please dont tell me to call the club, if I wasnt a regular at the stoop how would i know that this club is inept and I would need to call the box office, or roll up at the gate. To a newbie this would give the impression of a sell out, when in fact we will be lucky to have a ground 1/3 full tomorrow.
Disgrace!
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| Quote ="hindyscrack"Ok
Done my rounds, managed to get a crew of 8 together... gone to buy tickets online... only 6 single seats in different stands/areas available.
Now, do any of you find this acceptable? Please defend this?
I cant buy tickets to a game that has sold a small amount of tickets.
No wonder ticket sales are down.
I dont even know if I will bother tomorrow. Please dont tell me to call the club, if I wasnt a regular at the stoop how would i know that this club is inept and I would need to call the box office, or roll up at the gate. To a newbie this would give the impression of a sell out, when in fact we will be lucky to have a ground 1/3 full tomorrow.
Disgrace!'"
You should have bought your tickets months in advance of course, not the club's fault
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| Lets hope the club have learned some valuable lessons from this. Imo the ethiad should have been season ticket holders priority for maybe 1 week to buy their seat tickets and as many as the £5 tickets as They wanted. after that Blocks AA,AB AC AG AH AJ Unallocated with Either the Lexus or North/South stand open from the start. I know their will be a lot of walk ons on the day and probably majority Antip's who the club should be targeting to return to watch the Quins on a regular basis. Lets hope the game is a good un and the bar is organised.
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| Quote ="wire-quin"Fans of Leeds and Wigan moan-There is no end to it. If it isnt marketing its the ground, style of play, sun in your eyes.........'"
Nothing wrong with the ground and the style of play is pretty boring now you mention it......But yes...it is Marketing! (or lack of it and CRM)
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| Quote Ok
Done my rounds, managed to get a crew of 8 together... gone to buy tickets online... only 6 single seats in different stands/areas available.
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OK so its no ideal but going from 8 attending to not going 'cause you cant sit like primary school kids in a row seems unusual.
I wish they would make my misses sit on her own in the Lexus stand- She asks that many bloody questions during the game
What are you a swingers group or something
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| there were 6 single tickets online... 6 single seats!
wire-quin i dont know how you can make that comment! its f'n pathetic on the clubs behalf. you should be able to sit with your mates at a game that has a crowd that isnt even a third of the grounds capacity. this is a game that is supposed to showcase the club to 'new fans'.
i used to wonder why the game in london hadnt grown, here's why. i won't even use the word amature, because amature clubs are doing a better job at promoting the game in this city.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"You should have bought your tickets months in advance of course, not the club's fault
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| Quote ="hindyscrack"yes, getting the largest gate possible is insane, you need to keep operational costs as low as possible!'"
Yup. Enjoy your day relaxing at home or doing something else other than going to the match, I know I will
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