I am delighted that 2011 will see Harlequins RL in Superleague and hope the funding is in place to pick up a few decent players as well as continue the yoof development.

The "rest"? Let's hope thay kick on and really get some things in place for 2011.....I will continue to snipe and people will shout me down, but regardless of the announcement in Friday, things do need to change for the business to grow.

Gutters, I wasn't haven't having a pop at you when I wrote that....there are posts from others who, although they purport to be QRL fans since the stone age, do nothing but find negatives whenever there is a true glimmer of a positive in the club's future being found.
Yes I agree a lot needs doing on the management and marketing front. We are not out of the woods yet with Friday's announcement but it is a start.

I doubt many will disagree that things need to change but carpet bombing might have been a better description of your postings on here.

Agreed. If only the club would use such tactics on the marketi..........oops.

Creative sales

So Nadera - why are diehard fans leaving?

Some left because of the tie in with a Union brand and they are no loss.

The average gate for a london RL game since 2000 is 3,607.
The highest average in those 11 seasons was as Harlequins in 2006...the lowest was 3,232 as The Broncos in 2001.
The core support at Harlequins RL has pretty much stayed the same over the 11 years......some have drifted, some have left the country, but true fans never stop supporting their team.

I am glad you seem to be getting it sorted out.But there must be some kind of punishment,Is it fair other teams to get points taken away but harlequins rugby league club not to ?.
Many a club including my team widnes, That have nearly gone to the wall have still had points taken away before the season starts?
One more thing now u know you should be safe,Will this ever happen again,If its been going on for several seasons what will change ?
Before u start saying im a troll,i am not, you must see how it looks from all the other clubs perspective.
Good luck friday against our old enemy warrington

Punishment for what !!!!! ..........oh another supposed bail out from the RFL. If anyone should be penalised / punished it should be Ian Lenaghan and Wigan for breaching an agreement with the RFL. The RFL have as I understand it confiscated Lenaghan's shareholding - they have not as far as I am aware bought them or paid us humungous sums of money to keep us afloat

.

Punishment for what? As far as I know, the club have no overdraft, no bank loans, no money owed to anyone? Ian Lenagan and David hughes own the business (at the moment) and therefore, they "invest" money like any other business owner. They are not owed money....business owners invest....they don't loan.

...we haven't gone bust. We haven't nearly gone bust......what we have done is got the RFL to kick the 65% owner of the club to do what he said he was going to do.......but we have broken no rules. In 2005 we broke no rules either....but you conspiracy theorists will never learn.

..What? Our terrible crowds? Hope the club sort that out, but I fail to see what point you are trying to make here? The RFL have never "bailed us out", regardless of the b0ll0x posted by trolls....as for being safe, we need to re-apply in 2011...just like everyone else so we are not "safe". We will score points for some things and lose points for others....but we needed to get rid of an owner who was breaking RFL rules by owning 2 clubs. IMO, Wigan should be punished if anyone


....why post rubbish then?

.....the main problem with Rugby League is fans seem to want to point out the supposed failings of other clubs rather than concentrating on their own clubs failings......
....we do not get hand outs, we play in a nice ground, we have the most british team in SL, we are developing the game in the south east at our own expense and we have a minority shareholder who up until Friday who has backed us 100% financially.

These other clubs have issues of their own......Quins will deal with the crowd issue........but as a debt free club who are sticking to the rules as regard development and overseas players I would say Quins are in with a fair chance of getting another 3 years.
They will murder us, but I think the good news about 2011 will still mean many a smiling cockney will be found in the bar after the game!

Thank you Gutters for putting it much more eloquently than I did

Sorry i thought having no money to continue was going bust.I know you havent had hand outs but 7 million pounds lost, sounds bad to me.All im saying if it happend to most other clubs on the business side alone you would be out wouldent u?
Im tipping u to beat warrington friday, for widnes after them winning that cup again

Where have we lost 7 million pounds ????? link or copy of balance sheet please

I heard it on boots and all, that David Hughes had been pumping money in like there was no tommorow,Up to 7 million out of his own pocket, and business side still wasnt working and he had to pull out.And then i read that the wigans ian lenagan couldent get rid of his shares as the business wasnt making anything but losing.
I will leave it at that then not starting an argument good luck,Sounds to me like every 1 is going over the top about this then.
Im of back to our board as we have, exiting times ahead at widnes now, going good and should be joining u 2012

Wrong again sherlock!
We have a backer who owned 35% of the club was having to cover 100% of the losses. As it is, we have no losses as he has covered them.......operational losses, yes, but name me a SL club who hasn't got a red balance sheet. We have plenty of cash (DH does). What was questioned was why Ian Lenegan was allowed to hold the club to ransom over his investment.
I repeat..no loans, no overdraft....pretty healthy so long as DH is prepared to invest.

SO DO WE......

....but all our bills are paid, as are the wages.......thank god for DH........kind of like Mr O'connor at Widnes.

. No.......no rules have been broken...we have plenty of cash available but the issue of lenegans share holding needed to be sorted...it has been!

Now I know you are mad!

as b0ll0x goes...this post is up there with the best.
David Hughes has not pulled out....he has managed to get the RFL to sort out IL. DH has invested his own money, but was no longer prepared to invest on IL's behalf as well. IL was living in a dream world if he thought he was going to get a ROI on his investment...and the RFL have told him as much. He gave assurances he would get rid of his quins shareholding, he didn't. As I say, Wigan should be punished


As for going OTT......they say ignorance is bliss, so no wonder you're so happy.

Fair enough gutter-fax ,Like i said i think every 1 is going overboard with all this, if it is as you say,They need to read the small print before jumping in, bye for now, and yes prob mad thinking u would beat warrington but wishful thinking on my behalf

and that is my point.....we have no debt as DH has been our saviour over the years. As Leneghan was the majority shareholder DH's hands were tied. I suggest you should read or listen to things properly and not do what most of the other northern trolls do, twist what you read or hear to suit your own fantasies !!
You've obviously not seen tonights BBC news.......Widnes has been invaded by martians, Salford have just been bought out by the Glazer family, oh and let's not forget that the Queen is pregnant and Steve Ganson is the father.......remember you heard it here first !

Carry on backpedalling to where you need to go.............

I know its your board but that wasnt called for, i for 1 was getting to understand the situation of gutter-fax

It took you long enough to understand it

.......Tatty bye chuck

bye

thought you were going back to your own board ? You can't have much to say on there 'cos the majority of your posts have been made on here......



Now lets see total of about 11 posts, 10 in total on the Quins board, about six on just this thread....now that just leaves one.....oh that was on the Wakey board wasn't it, discussing.....Oooh getting Quins out of Superleague.............you've not actually posted on your own board yet.....lots going there then.....just like you said. You also edit your posts quicker than Monica Lewinsky went down on Bill Clinton...........please don't call me a troll you say.......ok then....you're a fooking troll........

Every one on here will know of people who at one time went to every game, bought every shirt, cheered every try. People who now don't go to even the games against the big guns. Only my opinion of course, but I don't think it's actually much to do with the product on the field (as bad as that has been at times) and more to do with the continued mismanagement of the club, the feeling that there is no serious plan for the future, that it's just lurching from one week to the next. People can put up with poor performances, but the sense that the club is actually dieing and yet completely unable to recognise that fact and act upon it, is something else. Eventually it wears people down, even the most ardent fan.

(Some people obviously drifted away with the Quins link up, and I'm not going to criticise anyone for doing that, we all know the history between the codes and also the way things ended when the Broncos played at the Stoop.)

This really is last chance saloon, no doubt about that. The starting point is that attendances need to improve and soon. It must surely be easier to get old fans to come back than to attract people completely new to the game? If they could show that they were getting to grips with the problems that have beset the club over the last x years then perhaps that would encourage people to return?

Hey you did u see your name there No i was on about celtic crusaders u fool.......I will go back now o before i go for good, as your 2 arrogant for me.This is just for u.you might be in super league but you have never won fffffffffffff alllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.O i forgot 1982- 83 division 2 champs.Widnes Rugby League Champions
1977-78, 1987-88, 1988-89

Challenge Cup Winners
1930, 1937, 1964, 1975, 1979, 1981, 1984
Runners Up, 1934, 1950, 1976, 1977, 1982, 1993

Lancashire League Winners
1919-20

Lancashire Cup Winners
1945, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1991
Runners Up, 1929, 1940, 1956, 1972, 1982, 1984

Regal Trophy Winners
1976, 1979, 1992
Runners Up, 1975, 1978, 1980, 1984, 1989

Premiership Winners
1980, 1982, 1983, 1988, 1989, 1990
Runners Up, 1978, 1991

Western Division Championship
Runners Up, 1962-1963

BBC Floodlit Trophy Winners
1978
Runners Up, 1973, 1974

Charity Shield Winners
1988, 1989, 1990

European Champions
1989

World Club Champions
1989

Northern Ford Premiership Grand Final Winners
2001

National League 1 Grand Final
Runners Up, 2006, 2007

Northern Rail Cup Winners
2007, 2009
eat my



you fool.ps i took my post back as i never wanted an argument but you did.
Soz to all the other nice quin fans.But you have problems

OK then we'll ignore the post on the wakey board then, that makes 100% of your posts have been to us, getting the wrong end of the stick, and wishing we had points deducted, were relegated etc......oh and Yeah, the 70's and 80's were good times for Widnes.......................................