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| Im waiting for the brigade to shoot me down with this post but to not win today after the way the game went is down to poor coaching. we were so dominant in the first half but still went in 6-6. our attack is the same structure as it was 3 years ago, teams just sit and wait, thats if we dont drop the ball in the process!! our defense is spot on really, but if u cant score you cant win. Saints went down to 10 men and we still could score, let alone control the game, we seem to panick way too often, something needs to change and if that means Anderson then so be it!!! and to compound the misery, saints were understrength for this game, walsh was on the bench until the second half. we just are not clinical enough!!
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| I'll oblige- you are clueless. We didn't lose the game down to poor coaching- we lost it because we lack basic skills. Anderson didn't make brough throw a stupid ball on the first tackle. Didn't make brough drop the ball, ellis lose the ball in the tackle, murphy drop the ball over the line or any other of the stupid handling errors. Lack of skill with the ball is what's costing us- the only thing you got right is that we panic - that's not coaching. And I'm pretty sure anderson doesn't tell brough to behave like a petulant child towards the ref
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| I thought you'd been on a good run recently. And going down by a few points to the champion team is certainly no disgrace.
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| Quote ="jools"I'll oblige- you are clueless. We didn't lose the game down to poor coaching- we lost it because we lack basic skills. Anderson didn't make brough throw a stupid ball on the first tackle. Didn't make brough drop the ball, ellis lose the ball in the tackle, murphy drop the ball over the line or any other of the stupid handling errors. Lack of skill with the ball is what's costing us- the only thing you got right is that we panic - that's not coaching. And I'm pretty sure anderson doesn't tell brough to behave like a petulant child towards the red.'"
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| Not saying anything about the coach but absolutely agree with everything else. We look so devoid of attacking options ....everything is the same, 1 man ambles to the line, look for the offload, it's boring to watch. Saints were awful and a decent side would have stuffed them.....we didn't even look like scoring !!!
They gave us chance after chance to win that game in the last 10 minutes and we blew everyone without once threatening their line...at the moment it's boring and predictable to watch !!
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| wow! blinkered comes to mind! fail to do anything in the playoffs under anderson is bad enough but the continued bad performances against opposition like today, not the saints of old and we still cant see it through!! we was always hanging on due to our lack of attacking prowess so to speak, who plans the attacking moves? yes i agree paul doesnt drop the ball etc but he does coach the same old attacking plays, and even when they work they are seen by south sydney rabbitohs who are on the other side of the world! time for a change!!
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| We've lost our last three by 6, 4 and 3 points and you want to sack the coach. Brilliant. we could have easily scored 3 times in the first half and at least twice in the second with those attacking plays you are bemoaning- but our players can't catch or throw the ball.
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| and who coaches them to catch and throw the ball? how many times do we have to say about errors cost us, panic rugby is not good enough!
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| players have to take responsibility, they are the ones throwing silly passes, dropping the ball, trying kick through's that just aren't on.
yes Anderson has to take ultimate responsibility but come on would he coach a team to not win games? would he coach a team to drop the ball and take wrong options everytime we get within 20 metres of the opponents line?
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| if those chances that we put down had stuck, if we'd have had a bit more composure near the line, if we hadn't dropped the ball countless time near the line, if Brough had gone on his own in the last 2 minutes, then we could have easily won the game by 20 points.
this thread wouldn't exist would it?
let's be honest, saints were no better than us, they hardly got anywhere near our until we started gifting them possession which they never looked like having..
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| Hmmmm .... [i"We didn't look like scoring"[/i ..... against the best defence in the league (according to the table).
Cut the coach some slack.
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| Agree with alot with what the OP says..
we seem to have gone stale
same old story every week about us not being able to cut the errors or hold onto the ball, but anderson coaches the players so the buck stops with him
our attack is so so poor we never look like scoring
nothing wrong with the defence.
we seem to go for the big players approach which worked well in the LLS season but teams know how to play us now, cox brought in and he was good today but its the big team approach again
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| Thank you. Someone who actually gets what I'm saying! In 5 games time you will all be saying what I'm saying right now! If I'm wrong then I will happily take criticism, I support my team through and through no matter what result is but times change and we need a change!
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| Quote ="hudders789"Im waiting for the brigade to shoot me down with this post but to not win today after the way the game went is down to poor coaching. we were so dominant in the first half but still went in 6-6. our attack is the same structure as it was 3 years ago, teams just sit and wait, thats if we dont drop the ball in the process!! our defense is spot on really, but if u cant score you cant win.'"
Oh dear you are clearly a knee jerker of the highest order
Your problems clearly lie with your talisman Brough IMO and not your coach, Brough is a very talented player but whenever i see him losing the plot and whining at referees constantly i know that we've taken his eye and attention off his game and that he's well off being at his destructive best,Surely you guys must see this too?
Quote ="hudders789"Saints went down to 10 men and we still could score, let alone control the game, we seem to panick way too often, something needs to change and if that means Anderson then so be it!!! and to compound the misery, saints were understrength for this game, walsh was on the bench until the second half. we just are not clinical enough!!'"
When did Saints go down to 10 men?
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| Quote ="Mugwump"Hmmmm .... [i"We didn't look like scoring"[/i ..... against the best defence in the league (according to the table).
Cut the coach some slack.'"
According to the table we have the best defence. Ironically we are adept at beating ourselves, we have done it the last three games.
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| Quote ="I Grope Balls"Oh dear you are clearly a knee jerker of the highest order
Your problems clearly lie with your talisman Brough IMO and not your coach, Brough is a very talented player but whenever i see him losing the plot and whining at referees constantly i know that we've taken his eye and attention off his game and that he's well off being at his destructive best,Surely you guys must see this too?
When did Saints go down to 10 men?'"
did you not see mose masoe go off for 10 mins which was indicated by a yellow card from the referee?
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| That's 12 men not 10 !!!!
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| Quote ="Danril"According to the table we have the best defence. Ironically we are adept at beating ourselves, we have done it the last three games.'"
Good spot. To be honest, I didn't look that far down. Either way, Saints defence has been exceptional this season (or at least, exceptional as Saints' defences usually go).
Our problem is having no attack to speak of pretty much all year.
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| I wish I didn't have to look that far down!
It's tight in the middle and a good run will get us up to maybe 5th or 6th at the time of the split but I can't see where that run is going to come from given our propensity to panic and parp at key moments (at best) and sometimes just not turn up at all.
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| Quote ="hudders789"did you not see mose masoe go off for 10 mins which was indicated by a yellow card from the referee?'"
Yes i did see Masoe get yellow carded
how many fingers and toes did you use to work out that we were left with only 10 players at that point
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| IMO, Huddersfield's strength is Huddersfield's weakness: Brough.
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| Quote ="meast"players have to take responsibility, they are the ones throwing silly passes, dropping the ball, trying kick through's that just aren't on.
yes Anderson has to take ultimate responsibility but come on would he coach a team to not win games? would he coach a team to drop the ball and take wrong options everytime we get within 20 metres of the opponents line?'"
Ouch! what would the score have been had you played a decent team, perhaps you might get a bit more pleasure if you changed from a size 9 to an 8
Quote ="meast"Glad to see you can keep your humour.. We had years of getting hammered.. You get used to it in the end
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| hi chissitt would rather lose 8-11 to the champions than 80-0 to a team who couldn't buy a win
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| ok so i meant 12, but most people would realise what i meant, i am also a follower of footie so simple mistake! and before i get the anti football brigade i have been a giants fan for over 20 years and only follow football, Giants are my team, but to go back to my original point, devoid of various attacking ideas is mainly down to the coach. ad lib ideas are onfield but the attacking plays that are pre planned are not good enough at the moment even if we execute them pefectly, they are seen a mile off so keep saying that the players are at fault but the buck stops with anderson, who i think has done a great job but he cant take us any further and his ideas have been found out as he doesnt seem to have a plan B!
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| Quote ="meast"hi chissitt
would rather lose 8-11 to the champions than 80-0 to a team who couldn't buy a win
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Does not really matter because in 10 weeks time we will be joining Wakey in playing against Leigh and Bradford !!!!!!!!
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