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| Quote ="Ambergiant"Well Life. Have you got any favourite Players? Seems like you think they are all Rubbish. Call yourself a Supporter. Times like this when real Support counts.'"
You don't know me so don't question my support. I've been around a long time and stood by the club through thin and thin and will continue to do so.
Read the post. Do I like anybody? I've said I think Jerry would make a good captain, I don't think Grix would.
Where else have I slagged any other player off?
I'm not Grix's biggest fan and prefer Connor. So what that's my opinion. If you don't like it fine.
At least you're not telling me to crawl back under my stone today you idiot.
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| basic errors, professional players making basic errors that are costing us games.
someone explain exactly how the coach is to blame for that??
as for captain, i agree that brough's game does get affected when things aren't going right and he gets frustrated with ref's, maybe that could be a bold move to take the captaincy off him, but would he then do a lunt and sulk?
if we need another captain, then robbo? he's pretty passionate when he needs to be, commands respect seemingly and would probably deal with refs better than danny?
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| Quote ="adamhuddsgiant"Anderson shouldn't go! His system isn't working at the moment but we have not been turned over once excluding the fc game! Even if we finished 9th it would be his mess to sort! Although If we finished 9th I would expect the club to see if anyone was available for the 2016 season!
Wigan by 8
Leeds by 4
Salford by 6
Hull kr by 4
Saints by 3
Bar hull we have been competitive in every fixture with every game being in the balance! 6 try's over those games above and we would be on 18 points! All its and buts however the league is so tight that a few wins strung together we will be back up there'"
And just think how many chances we 'bomb' every game - if we could hold the ball we would have won every one of those comfortably !!!
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| Meast,
To give my answer to your question and I would add that I am not calling for the Coaches head, but nor do I think he is blameless for our current disappointing form:
The Coach is responsible for preparing the team, if the team consistently do the wrong things then he is not getting his message over.
Unfortunately our players are as a group mentally weak at this time. Losing too many close games and just not performing in too many matches.
The players and coaches are saying all the right things, but I question whether the players currently believe what they are saying.
The Coach should be able to influence our players to prevent our captain losing the rag whenever a decision goes against us. It should not come as a surprise that refs get things wrong.
The Coach should be able to influence the players to encourage greater patience.
Often our moves are stifled by defences that are not back the full 10 - the Coach should have us prepared to deal with that - every other team in the league faces skinny 10s and most fare better than us in dealing with them. I think that is because we go wide early too often. A tactic that is high risk but currently low reward.
Are things entirely down to the coach? I don't think so, but he must take a lead in finding the improvement.
Is changing the coach the solution? I don't think it is time for that.
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| Quote ="meast"basic errors, professional players making basic errors that are costing us games.
someone explain exactly how the coach is to blame for that??'"
Simple question for you measty, what's the difference between a basic error or a non basic error?
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| Quote ="GiantDee"Meast,
To give my answer to your question and I would add that I am not calling for the Coaches head, but nor do I think he is blameless for our current disappointing form:
The Coach is responsible for preparing the team, if the team consistently do the wrong things then he is not getting his message over.
Unfortunately our players are as a group mentally weak at this time. Losing too many close games and just not performing in too many matches.
The players and coaches are saying all the right things, but I question whether the players currently believe what they are saying.
The Coach should be able to influence our players to prevent our captain losing the rag whenever a decision goes against us. It should not come as a surprise that refs get things wrong.
The Coach should be able to influence the players to encourage greater patience.
Often our moves are stifled by defences that are not back the full 10 - the Coach should have us prepared to deal with that - every other team in the league faces skinny 10s and most fare better than us in dealing with them. I think that is because we go wide early too often. A tactic that is high risk but currently low reward.
Are things entirely down to the coach? I don't think so, but he must take a lead in finding the improvement.
Is changing the coach the solution? I don't think it is time for that.'"
nail on the head
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| I thought it was a much improved performance from the last game I saw which was Salford. We looked up for it, got in their faces and showed the right stuff, unfortunately so did Saints and it was a very even encounter. A bounce of the ball, a stuck pass or a different reffing decision would have meant we'd have the 2 points.
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| Personally I don't want to see Anderson go. He is an inexperienced coach who is showing his frailties. Clearly he is coaching a very basic game-plan. Maybe he thinks the current ayers are not capable of more?
I would like to see an old head come in to oversee the whole operation - like Salford did with Tim Sheens. It yielded a huge upturn in their form.
The team are badly lacking an enforcer. Boy do we miss Luke O'donnell and Stu Fielden in that regard. Teams come to the JS Stadium knowing they can rule us and nobody will get a crack. We are s big powerful outfit but don't frighten anybody.
It needs addressing urgently.
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| You cannot coach anything other than a basic game plan in those conditions. Every opponent has been just as conservative with their tactics. If anything we have been tring to play too much rugby for the conditions.
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| Quote ="Andrew J"Personally I don't want to see Anderson go. He is an inexperienced coach who is showing his frailties. Clearly he is coaching a very basic game-plan. Maybe he thinks the current ayers are not capable of more?
I would like to see an old head come in to oversee the whole operation - like Salford did with Tim Sheens. It yielded a huge upturn in their form.
The team are badly lacking an enforcer. Boy do we miss Luke O'donnell and Stu Fielden in that regard. Teams come to the JS Stadium knowing they can rule us and nobody will get a crack. We are s big powerful outfit but don't frighten anybody.
It needs addressing urgently.'"
When he first became our coach he demanded we get the basics right before we try the fancy attacking play. We did that and we won the LLS.
I agree with that tactic completely. Rain or shine we need to earn the right to do more.
However! Are our players not happy with that style of play? Have they now got too big for their boots and think they should just play how they know they can without worrying about what Anderson will say at half time?
Maybe all of that is far from the truth and the players are happy playing the coaches game but I do question if Anderson has a good attacking plan sometimes.
He is inexperienced as you say but that for where we are as a team is a good thing because he's doing a good job.
I don't think he needs a hand with responsibilities. I trust him to get us through the season with us pushing hard for silverware.
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| i know its not anderson thats not playing out there , missing the tackles , giving away the penalties etc , but it is anderson who unfortunatly takes the blame as every head coach does, and 6 defeats after round 10 is simply not good enough ? we lack creativeness in attack , the same thing we lacked in round 1 and 2, our whole pre season as based on defence which is very good , but we still cant win games as we cant score enough points ...
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| In todays examiner anderson says he didnt bring mullally or cox back on the field as we needed more mobile players as we was chasing the game....
to me this sounds like he was panicking .... does that come across to the players on the field...certainly made the players start to lose patience which we seem to talk about
we just had to keep breaking them down and the points would have come, instead we got errors
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| Quote ="brearley84"In todays examiner anderson says he didnt bring mullally or cox back on the field as we needed more mobile players as we was chasing the game....
to me this sounds like he was panicking .... does that come across to the players on the field...certainly made the players start to lose patience which we seem to talk about
we just had to keep breaking them down and the points would have come, instead we got errors'"
It's confusing for us what goes through a coaches mind but I suppose we have to trust he knows what he's doing.
Look at Leeds last year. They had a red card in the first half of one of there games and BM didn't use 2 of his subs for the whole game. It's a coaches job to do what he thinks is best to win a game. If Anderson got it wrong, it'll be a learning curve. He'll think twice next time.. Though probably stubborn enough not to admit he should have chose differently.
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| I sort of get what he was saying. Have the experienced heads on the field when it's close- also we weren't going to go through saints pack- mullally (cox?) doesnt have a passing/offloading game and neither are mobile- so other than perhaps 5 metres in a set of six they didn't give us an edge. In a close game like that you can't afford a defensive lapse- Mullally often has those and cox won't know our systems well enough.
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| i just dont understand why they have signed cox on loan for MUST win games when hes not match fit , he can only play 15 20 mins top ( not his fault ) its like its a waste of a player , we still have fire power to bring on without signing him
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| Quote ="Huddsgiants11"i just dont understand why they have signed cox on loan for MUST win games when hes not match fit , he can only play 15 20 mins top ( not his fault ) its like its a waste of a player , we still have fire power to bring on without signing him'"
perhaps KR need a bit of breathing room on the cap after taking on lunt.
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| Quote ="jools"perhaps KR need a bit of breathing room on the cap after taking on lunt.
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or they have had too many bank loans for overseas players
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| Andersons comments in todays paper
'we've obviously had major issues with our offence all year. As head coach i have to take responsibility for that, as its my role at the club, and its also my job to fix it'
think purtell takes charge of the defence...
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| So apart from the strange result against Hull in the very first game of the season only Wigan have beaten the Giants by more than 4 points.
I'd suggest that Anderson is doing a very good job and his team is competitive in every fixture. With just one more score it could be played 10 won 8 Lost just 2
Huddersfield Giants 38 V 14 Catalans Dragons. =#408000WON BY 24
Huddersfield Giants 8 V 11 St Helens =#FF0000LOST BY 3
Hull Kingston Rovers 20 V 16 Huddersfield Giants =#FF0000LOST BY 4
Huddersfield Giants 12 V 18 Salford Red Devils =#FF0000LOST BY 4
Warrington Wolves 10 V 29 Huddersfield Giants =#408000WON BY 19
Wakefield Wildcats 14 V 44 Huddersfield Giants =#408000WON BY 30
Huddersfield Giants 22 V 0 Castleford Tigers =#408000WON BY 22
Huddersfield Giants 24 V 12 Widnes Vikings =#408000WON BY 12
Leeds Rhinos 28 V 24 Huddersfield Giants =#FF0000LOST BY 4
Wigan Warriors 24 V 16 Huddersfield Giants =#FF0000LOST BY 8
Huddersfield Giants 0 V 19 Hull FC =#FF0000LOST BY 19
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| we should have beaten wigan that night too with more composure!
Anderson shuffled things up today and got the win, well done.
Big test next week at Hull fc, we are due a win there
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| Quote ="brearley84"we should have beaten wigan that night too with more composure!
Anderson shuffled things up today and got the win, well done.
Big test next week at Hull fc, we are due a win there'"
And we owe them one big time for that first game when they caught us cold
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| i can't believe this thread about wanting anderson out?
the giants fans that propose this ought to be careful what they wish for imo
paul anderson is a very good coach and one that i would trust to take your club forward,get behind him guys
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| Quote ="Jonesy's a Legend"i can't believe this thread about wanting anderson out?
the giants fans that propose this ought to be careful what they wish for imo
paul anderson is a very good coach and one that i would trust to take your club forward,get behind him guys'"
most of us do, it's just the kneeejerkers reaction to another defeat....it will be quiet for at least a week now.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"So apart from the strange result against Hull in the very first game of the season only Wigan have beaten the Giants by more than 4 points.
I'd suggest that Anderson is doing a very good job and his team is competitive in every fixture. With just one more score it could be played 10 won 8 Lost just 2
Huddersfield Giants 38 V 14 Catalans Dragons. =#408000WON BY 24
Huddersfield Giants 8 V 11 St Helens =#FF0000LOST BY 3
Hull Kingston Rovers 20 V 16 Huddersfield Giants =#FF0000LOST BY 4
Huddersfield Giants 12 V 18 Salford Red Devils =#FF0000LOST BY 4
Warrington Wolves 10 V 29 Huddersfield Giants =#408000WON BY 19
Wakefield Wildcats 14 V 44 Huddersfield Giants =#408000WON BY 30
Huddersfield Giants 22 V 0 Castleford Tigers =#408000WON BY 22
Huddersfield Giants 24 V 12 Widnes Vikings =#408000WON BY 12
Leeds Rhinos 28 V 24 Huddersfield Giants =#FF0000LOST BY 4
Wigan Warriors 24 V 16 Huddersfield Giants =#FF0000LOST BY 8
Huddersfield Giants 0 V 19 Hull FC =#FF0000LOST BY 19'"
nail on head!
i have said all along that the defeats we've had ( bar the Hull debacle) have al been in close fought games, games, which we could and probably should have won but for silly mistakes at crucial times by individual players!
i appreciate the coach is the one who carries the can, but how a coach can be blamed for players dropping balls or throwing the wrong pass near the oppositions try line or missing tackles on our own line ..those are the mistakes that have ultimately cost us those close games.
on another given day we could have won those games and no one would be complaining
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