So, has anyone changed their opinion?

I certainly haven't.

Thorman out thought and out played both Brown & Robinson put together.

His passing was excellent, his kicking put us under pressure, and I don't suppose his critics saw the bomb he caught.

OK, he didn't make any decisive breaks - but did Brown, did Robbo?

There, rant over.

Hmm, I thought he was average at best really, Horne was doing all the work, and Robinson played quite well, Brown ran the ball well, but passed it poorly.

Horne is starting to show his class again. Was head and shoulders above the other 3 1/2 backs on the field last night. You'll get nowhere with brown at off half though

Horne was the best half back on the night, but with Thorman doing a lot of work, like moving the forwards around the park etc... it gives Horne the freedom to play his own game. They make a very good combination at the moment.

Thought Thorman was his usual dormant self. In fact I thought he was the worst half back on the pitch last night.

I tought Thorman was average. But let's face it - he didn't have to be more than average last night. Just did the basics well.
Horne was head and shoulders above the rest - a stand of that makes things happen. Although I though Brown was one of the best of a bad bunch for us.

Sorry Ponner, you really have to be joking!

Mind you, we know your opinion of Thorman.

Watched the game live and watched it on tv later and yet to see what Thorman contributed to Hull. I'm not Brown's biggest fan at 6 but even he played better than Thorman. Can't see the fascination in sticking up for Thorman when he is average at best. He was a better player at least 2 seasons ago. Saying that though we could have won last night had he been kicking for us

Back Ponner up 100% re Thorman, all he did was stood and passed the ball all night, put 1 good kick thru for a try, at 1 point a gap as wide as Humber opened up but Thorman was too slow to capitalise on it, as I said before has been a good halfback, now is 30+? and has lost all the pace needed for a 6, will do ok at Hull who will play him at 7 and with Horne outside him but will never pull up any trees.

put a great kick in for yeaman to score the WINNING TRY though, but being the bitter loser you are you probably blinked at that very moment





get over it and move on you sad and bitter fool, going by the fc messageboard you have huge gripe against us!

i think that maybe the voting pattern suggests that Thorman has been missed. Votes were evenly split before the Hull game but have become much more pro Thorman after the Hull game.

maybe that is Hull fans voting maybe not.

also some of the comments seem to only look at one indavidual element of Thormans performance eg all thorman did was stand back and pass the ball.

The judge of how well a half back plays surely has to be judged on a lot of different criteria.

Do the two half backs complement each other ?

Horne and Thorman worked well together. One organising and the other showing indavidual flair.

One of them short kicking and the other long kicking.


Brown and Robinson are both good players in their own right but they do not complement each other. They are both very busy attacking the line but neither seem to direct play and run the attacking moves. we only look dangerous or inventive when Hodgson is running the show.

Hull played simple and effective rugby and it worked. we played lots of off the cuff stuff that did not





What does the half back add to the team that other players do not ?

Thorman has a great short kicking game. we do not have one player who does. thorman is a great goal kicker , Hodgson has not yet got up to speed. thorman is a thinker other than Hodgson i am not sure we do.


No matter how people feel about Thorman there is no doubt that i would rather him being in our team at the minute than playing somewhere else. We amde a mistake in getting rid of him before Carney was secured although recent events suggest we made a lucky escape in not getting Carney after his arrest AGAIN last week.

BUT it is all in the past and we now have to make do with what we have got which at the minute is not enough. A long hard season ahead for us particularly now injuries to key players are hitting us.

Using voting patterns to judge a player is idiotic. if 50 people now vote Thorman > brown I could not care less.

selecting ' bits of data' to support Thorman is also foolish. Over a career, not a few weeks, BH is a superior kicker. an inconvenient fact, I know.

As for CT is a 'thinker'. Not sure what this means in terms of actual observable performance. it may be a convenient label to try and 'big up' a player but is actually meaningless.

As for a 'single criteria for judging Thorman. Here are a few:

short kicking game - good
long kicking game - inconsistent
goal kicking - currently irrelevant
passing - sound, selection less impressive
speed/strength - slowing and no strength to break tackles
ability to beat a man - virtually zero
defence - poor to very poor
catching high balls - inconsistent
running - tends to be lateral, slow and renders his passes ineffective. if the defensive line move up he has the ability to deliver a good short kick.

His short kicking game would give us something extra but the price would be far too high IMO.

May have been good for the club and CT if NB had got hold of him a few years ago.

Thorman aint a world class player but he does what we need him to do and that is have a good kicking game and direct us around the field. Sure he won't do alot creativitity wise but without his other factors Fc would have played 4 lost 4 so far this season.

Ironic that I feel Huddersfield lacked that sort of General, Brown aint a half back and a very poor centre at worst and Robinson is far too inconsistant.

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Thats what weve missed the last couple of years too. Thorman may not do the flashy work but he is definately contributing massively to where we are in the table currently.

Only problem you have is he will be caught short when you come up against teams with classy halfback pairings. other than that he will do a job for ya if played at 7

Perhaps we should see if Hull want to keep him!

Where the hell did this thread get dredged up from

Anyway, Brown and Robinson are donig ok for me right now

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He signed on a 1 year contract IIRC - Sounds like he has a lot of work to do to win the fans over and probably Staff but I suppose he cannot do anything wrong in sharps eyes?

I think it illustrates how fickle supporters can be too. When we played them the other week, he was the perfect foil for Richard Horne. 3 defeats later and he's garbage.

Any way the wind blows!

Random Bohemian Rhapsody quote there.