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| I speak from the heart when I say I think we are fighting a losing battle. How can we compete against the SUper Leage sides we and other championship sides were at a massive disadvantage before the first game .I feel sorry for the players our Derek and the board of directors Paul and all the dedicated coaching staff and of course the fantastic fans.
We have been fantastic and made progress on and off the field over the past two seasons but achieved nothing .
I hope the RFL realise what is going on and how glaringly unfair it is for championship clubs. Wakefield as we all know have invested to keep them in SL but I would put a bet on they will be in the same situation again this time next season .
I am a loyal Leyther I love my club and will support them whatever . And I do still think we can make that 5th spot .
But I hate to see the heart and soul being ripped out of this team. It is only my opinion but I do think this is what is happening .
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| it wasn't a problem in the cup games.
the simple truth is that in a one off game like a cup game Leigh are capable of beating Salford and Wakefield, in terms of doing it every week, you have been found out, your playing style,although good and exciting to watch is full of holes, which even the poorest of SL teams will and have exploited.
i wouldn't be too down about it, most people except some Leythers expected this to happen
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| Quote ="meast"it wasn't a problem in the cup games.
the simple truth is that in a one off game like a cup game Leigh are capable of beating Salford and Wakefield, in terms of doing it every week, you have been found out, your playing style,although good and exciting to watch is full of holes, which even the poorest of SL teams will and have exploited.
i wouldn't be too down about it, most people except some Leythers expected this to happen'"
The simple truth is we have recruited the best we can with the amount of funding and salary cap we get.
No we didn't play that well today and our defense was poor and 50/50 calls went against us but no complaints as we need to try and put it right next week.
No doubt if you got the same amount of funding and salary cap that we do,you would most likely to be in the same boat thicko.
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| To be fair Cokey, at least Meast (!) hasn't come on here just laughing at us, unlike others.
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| reality check guys win v Championship clubs and we are in the BIG one off game
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| 4th place is not beyond us yet, let's not get too despondant, we could also finish 7th (sorry Sheffield). That's the beuty of the comp at our level. Realistically HKR, Widnes and Salford were always top 3, Wakey have played the rules well which is a bit of a bummer.
A lot depends on how we react to these 2 defeats, not used to being turned over so big test for coach and players.
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| What I don't understand is up to Wakey beating Bradford yesterday there has been no mention of players/coach /money etc ,Wakey were/are crap and would be totally annihilated . What's changed ????
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| Someone hit the nail on the head on the other board, as long as the SL teams beat the Championship teams, then we can still be in contention if we win all of our Championship games...... we can come 5th and the have a play off for Super League
(Demon UK I just checked)
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| We need a bit more blind optimism. Where's Tipster Ste to tell us we'll be winning the challenge cup in 3 years time?
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| Quote ="cocker"What I don't understand is up to Wakey beating Bradford yesterday there has been no mention of players/coach /money etc ,Wakey were/are crap and would be totally annihilated . What's changed ????'"
Your team !
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| But you were only saying this last week…..no changes since then !!!
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| Quote ="maurice"reality check guys win v Championship clubs and we are in the BIG one off game'"
Agreed.
This was always going to be the most likely scenario. A win against any SL team was/is a huge bonus in this competition. Full marks to HKR for their comeback last week, and to Salford for dismantling us today. We have another crack at it next week, against opposition that are still the most likely SL team for us to do well against. Granted, that will be a very big ask of the team, but it IS possible that we can make it a bad day for Wakefield.
It's now that the coaching staff and players have to show their true mettle. I wish them all the best for that - and hope that the last two games haven't taken too much out of them physically, or mentally.
Mind you, we will still need to be extremely wary of our Championship opponents too!
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"To be fair Cokey, at least Meast (!) hasn't come on here just laughing at us, unlike others.'"
Budge you can't blame opposing fans coming on here and laughing at us , after all it was only yesterday that a fair few Leigh fans were coming on this message board laughing and saying how bad Bradford were.
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| First half although I don't currently have the benefit of a rerun I thought Greg McNally definitely scored in the first half which would have made the score 24 18 in the second half.
Can't deny once they scored to go 30 12 up I thought that was game over but I still can't understand why McNally's first half try was ruled out.
Salford deserved the win but I still think we are in with a shot of promotion.
I watch practically all our games unlike some who are not Leigh fans and who have posted their views today.
Our players might still do it. We will see' but you could tell at the end with the reaction from our players that they were as gutted as us fans.
Not over yet.
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| Bit early to be getting negative.If games go to form, Leigh should finish fifth. They'd have a chance in a one off game because they have the strike power to score points.
I wouldn't rule out wins against Widnes or Wakefield though the odds are stacked against. Wakefield have improved massively. Every time they got in our 20 last week Tim Smith really looked the part.
Great turn out today from Leigh fans and everything still to play for.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Budge you can't blame opposing fans coming on here and laughing at us , after all it was only yesterday that a fair few Leigh fans were coming on this message board laughing and saying how bad Bradford were.'"
fair enough Charlie, but I don't do it....unless I'm P*****d !
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"fair enough Charlie, but I don't do it....unless I'm P*****d !
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Budge I don't do it either,in the past maybe a bit of banter but not to disrespect other clubs because you never know when it could happen to Leigh,I'm as pi##ed off as the rest of us Leigh fans , but I won't stop believing until it is impossible to qualify.Today RangI Chase and Dobson gave our players a lesson on finishing and line kicking,for me Riddy has had a very good season up to now but today he was fairly quiet.
I'm sure today's result hurt the boys ,and they come out on Saturday determined to put things right .
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| Quote ="maurice"reality check guys win v Championship clubs and we are in the BIG one off game'"
Hits the nail on the head, and in a one off game who knows what can happen.
Is the million-pound game played at a neutral venue?
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| Million pound game is at the team placed in 4th's ground.
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| I think that the RFL have to look at the disparity between SL & Championship funding for next season & also address the 'cut off point' for recruiting/signing new players or half a team.
If this doesn't happen then the odds on anything changing in SL are slim to nowt, *which is maybe what the RFL want* who knows.
If say a SL team are allowed a £250k Marquee Signing then a Championship Club should be allowed the same, or very near to it, say £175 - £200k.
The Cap needs to come closer together, so that if a SL Club can spend £1.5m on Cap, a Championship Club *who have the means to* can spend say £1m on the Cap.
If it doesn't happen then I think the whole 8's thing might fail & then you might as well go back to Licensing.
If however Leigh beat Wakey or Bradford in the £Million Game then I will proclaim it "a magnificent triumph for Rugby League" & *go into hiding for a couple of weeks*
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Budge you can't blame opposing fans coming on here and laughing at us , after all it was only yesterday that a fair few Leigh fans were coming on this message board laughing and saying how bad Bradford were.'"
It was fair comment. We were very very bad. Nobody would disagree. Trouble was that Wakey were very very good at the same time. Doubt they could be that good again.
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| We are quite capable of beating Wakey and then Sheff at home. Suddenly it's game on again. I know it isn't the best of starts but I didn't expect to win the first 2 games. The realistic battle for the Champ sides is that 5th spot and anything can happen in the million pound game. It's not over yet not by a long chalk. HKR & Salford too big and strong and too experienced for us. Fax are going to be the dark horses for that 5th spot.
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| Quote ="8ULL5HITT4"It was fair comment. We were very very bad. Nobody would disagree. Trouble was that Wakey were very very good at the same time. Doubt they could be that good again.'"
I don't like to ridicule opposing fans and teams as you never know how your team will perform.
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| Quote ="Cokey"The simple truth is we have recruited the best we can with the amount of funding and salary cap we get.
No we didn't play that well today and our defense was poor and 50/50 calls went against us but no complaints as we need to try and put it right next week.
No doubt if you got the same amount of funding and salary cap that we do,you would most likely to be in the same boat thicko.'" cokey. Out of order calling him a thicko, why cant people discuss the game with s little humilaty and interlect/respect without having to revert to personal abuse.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Budge I don't do it either,in the past maybe a bit of banter but not to disrespect other clubs because you never know when it could happen to Leigh,I'm as pi##ed off as the rest of us Leigh fans , but I won't stop believing until it is impossible to qualify.Today RangI Chase and Dobson gave our players a lesson on finishing and line kicking,for me Riddy has had a very good season up to now but today he was fairly quiet.
I'm sure today's result hurt the boys ,and they come out on Saturday determined to put things right .'"
Not only riddy, i thought ryan once again did very little.
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