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Absolutely spot on, a huge well done to Halifax and I sincerely hope that our own board follow suit.
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Absolutely spot on, a huge well done to Halifax and I sincerely hope that our own board follow suit.
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| Quote ="FredParky"Lets not forget the Saints in all this they have an agreement with Rochdale and have now entered into another with Whitehaven and have sent Ade Gardner and a prop to them for this weekends game why not send them to Rochdale now that is extracting the urine.'"
Rochdale's season doesn't start for 3 more weeks...
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Good on them, I hope the Leigh board follow suit.
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Good on them, I hope the Leigh board follow suit.
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| Quote ="mish"Good on them, I hope the Leigh board follow suit.'"
I hope so as well mish.
I would have prefered a united statement from as many clubs as possible, rather than one or two clubs risking the wrath of nigel, but so be it.
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| Come on Leigh, Fev and Barrow (?). Now all we need is for all the champ clubs to pull out of the twinning arrangements as well, although Swinton might struggle to raise 17 players.
Come on Championship clubs, for the first time lets see you all sticking together. We have enough players to help each other out if necessary.
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Official RFL statement on this confirms that DR is to help players get match fit:
"[iThe RFL has been informed by the UK Border Agency that under the terms of his visa, Kylie Leuluai of Leeds Rhinos is unable to play for Hunslet Hawks as a dual-registered player.
The RFL has recently lobbied the UKBA for a change to the rules which prevent players on Tier 2 visas playing for a second club on a short-term arrangement. This follows on from changes to the Super League Academy structure, which from 2013 is an exclusively under-19s competition, an arrangement that means open-age overseas Tier 2 visa players returning from injury cannot gain match fitness on short-term loans or dual registrations.
Dialogue with the UKBA continues but the UKBA have confirmed that until any change in circumstance is agreed, under existing provisions no player on a Tier 2 visa can be dual registered.[/i"
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Official RFL statement on this confirms that DR is to help players get match fit:
"[iThe RFL has been informed by the UK Border Agency that under the terms of his visa, Kylie Leuluai of Leeds Rhinos is unable to play for Hunslet Hawks as a dual-registered player.
The RFL has recently lobbied the UKBA for a change to the rules which prevent players on Tier 2 visas playing for a second club on a short-term arrangement. This follows on from changes to the Super League Academy structure, which from 2013 is an exclusively under-19s competition, an arrangement that means open-age overseas Tier 2 visa players returning from injury cannot gain match fitness on short-term loans or dual registrations.
Dialogue with the UKBA continues but the UKBA have confirmed that until any change in circumstance is agreed, under existing provisions no player on a Tier 2 visa can be dual registered.[/i"
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Absolutely spot on, a huge well done to Halifax and I sincerely hope that our own board follow suit.'"
they made it quite clear at a fans forum that we wouldnt be going down that route
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| Quote ="Wheels"Rochdale's season doesn't start for 3 more weeks...'"
that makes everything hunky dorry again then
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| Quote ="FredParky"they made it quite clear at a fans forum that we wouldnt be going down that route'"
The ball game has changed somewhat since then though Fred and with other clubs signing up as well I would think Leigh re-iterating their position would be a good idea.
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| Maybe Leigh made their feelings well known to the RFL at this week's RFL meeting? (which was held at Leigh I believe)
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| Quote ="Alan"Maybe Leigh made their feelings well known to the RFL at this week's RFL meeting? (which was held at Leigh I believe)'"
And maybe they dare'nt !
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Excellent , it's heartening to see a Championship Club official taking a stand and saying what most think, i echo the sentiments especially the feeling that our BOD could/should stand shoulder to shoulder with the Fax club in condemning the "Twinning/dc/keeping first team SL players match fit" at the expense of another leagues progress...
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Excellent , it's heartening to see a Championship Club official taking a stand and saying what most think, i echo the sentiments especially the feeling that our BOD could/should stand shoulder to shoulder with the Fax club in condemning the "Twinning/dc/keeping first team SL players match fit" at the expense of another leagues progress...
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Well done Halifax, sends a clear signal to their supporters and potential sponsors that they don't intend to join in this farce.
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Well done Halifax, sends a clear signal to their supporters and potential sponsors that they don't intend to join in this farce.
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| Quote ="Cassandra"And maybe they dare'nt !'"
As I say, maybe they did.
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| Quote ="Alan"As I say, maybe they did.'"
Well maybe they should grow some balls and tell the fans they did
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| I have to agree.
When this partnership idea was first trailed I thought it would be just the younger players. Now it seems it is every player of a NON RELEGATION CLUB.
It is absolutely criminal that this should be allowed.
I am sorry to say it but the people who run the game ie NON RELEGATION CLUB Chairman should be ashamed of themselves.
Leigh's Board of directors need to make a public statement condeming this outrageous development.
Wish I was on the Board I would
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| Quote ="Starbug"Well maybe they should grow some balls and tell the fans they did'"
You could argue that it takes more guts to tell the RFL what they think though.
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| Id like to see us ,Fev, Fax, Barrow and Sheffield issue a joint statement over it and also get together and take it up with the RFL.
Just think if one of these clubs were to get relegated. Its a long shot but could happen, how would we feel if we needed to win the last game Dewsbury at home and they played half of Bradford's first team and we lost. Its a total farce, and needs sorting out.
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| I don't think it is a long shot, I think it's a very real possibility that one of those teams could be relegated because those cheating the system will obviously bring out the big guns every time they play us and we could end up with a league turned on it's head.
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| If the clubs wishing to retain an identity aren't engaged in an expanded FT structure we should break away, attracting other clubs with more to lose should we do so.
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| Quote ="Alan"You could argue that it takes more guts to tell the RFL what they think though.'"
And even more to then tell the world you have done so
Sorry alan , but I'm sick to death of the ' brown nosing ' , musn't ' rock the boat ' " they've told us they like us and want us in SL " bollox that I keep seeing and hearing
Our sport was built on straight talking , not politically correct ' fawning ' over idiots like Mr Wood and Rimmer , sooner or later it will be time to stand up and be counted , the sooner it happens , the sooner changes will happen and the less damage will be done , because if they wait too long , it will be too late , and then our proposed ' partnership ' which was exactly the same as the twinning others have done , will be all that is left
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| Quote ="Starbug"And even more to then tell the world you have done so
Sorry alan , but I'm sick to death of the ' brown nosing ' , musn't ' rock the boat ' " they've told us they like us and want us in SL " bollox that I keep seeing and hearing
Our sport was built on straight talking , not politically correct ' fawning ' over idiots like Mr Wood and Rimmer , sooner or later it will be time to stand up and be counted , the sooner it happens , the sooner changes will happen and the less damage will be done , because if they wait too long , it will be too late , and then our proposed ' partnership ' which was exactly the same as the twinning others have done , will be all that is left'"
Who's 'brown - nosing', or 'not rocking the boat'? I merely put a fact into the debate. And if we talk about 'standing up to be counted', what do you do, stand up to the guys you mention, (as I suggested Leigh have done) or just post a statement on your website? Things are more likely to change, by confronting the 'powers that be' than posting on the internet. Our proposed 'patnership' was not what many others have done - it involved young players and the youth of the Borough. I'm not saying I agree with Dual registrations, or twinning, by the way - if we had more cash, I'd much rather keep things 'in house'.
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| Quote ="Alan"Who's 'brown - nosing', or 'not rocking the boat'? =#FF0000I merely put a fact into the debate. And if we talk about 'standing up to be counted', what do you do, stand up to the guys you mention, (as I suggested Leigh have done) or just post a statement on your website? Things are more likely to change, by confronting the 'powers that be' than posting on the internet. Our proposed 'patnership' was not what many others have done - it involved young players and the youth of the Borough. I'm not saying I agree with Dual registrations, or twinning, by the way - if we had more cash, I'd much rather keep things 'in house'.'"
You ' suggested ' a fact on an Internet Forum , different to the club publishing it , and that is what I mean by not ' rocking the boat ' , a quiet word in their ear means nothing to them , its publicly stating they are wrong that they dont like , it is only when the majority do that we will see them taking the lower tiers seriously
As for the ' partnership ' , well I will bow to your knowledge , however when it was announced the ' twinnings ' weren't as they currently are , there had been no mention of the loosening of the age restriction , just that the numbers were 5 from 8 , we were looking at 5 from 5 , not drastically different IMO
As for more cash , well until a plan is put in place to generate more cash , apart from WMBC , then nothing will get any better
I'll leave it there as I have no wish to cause any further discord , feel free to reply
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| Quote ="Starbug"You ' suggested ' a fact on an Internet Forum , different to the club publishing it , and that is what I mean by not ' rocking the boat ' , a quiet word in their ear means nothing to them , its publicly stating they are wrong that they dont like , it is only when the majority do that we will see them taking the lower tiers seriously
As for the ' partnership ' , well I will bow to your knowledge , however when it was announced the ' twinnings ' weren't as they currently are , there had been no mention of the loosening of the age restriction , just that the numbers were 5 from 8 , we were looking at 5 from 5 , not drastically different IMO
As for more cash , well until a plan is put in place to generate more cash , apart from WMBC , then nothing will get any better
I'll leave it there as I have no wish to cause any further discord , feel free to reply'"
Just differing opinions on how things can be best achieved. It would be pretty boring, (and highly unusual) if everyone agreed about everything.
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