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| Quote ="Leyther_till_death"I don't think anyone can defend Millward's stint at Wigan. He was in charge of them during their most recent darkest time, weather it was his fault or not, the players and people involved there at the time certainly didn't warm to him, obviously one being Radlinski who was experienced at the time, well respected in the game and who had worked with a lot of coaches. Now he's involved at Wigan around the youth area, he's hardly going to recommend their players to go and play under him. So going off that I can understand why Wigan won't send their youth players to us.
I'm sure Ben would like to play for his home town team rather than travel up to Barrow every other weekend but it's not his choice. We just have to work with what we've got instead of moaning about Wigan. What we have got is a good relationship with Warrington, who are producing the same calibre of players, so we're hardly losing out.'"
Can whoever has hacked Tommy's account please log off or at least make it a bit more believable and stop posting sense?!
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| Quote ="FredParky"He wasn't there long enough to create any 'relationships', he certainly built them at Saints and here so who's problem does that make it? I must admit to not looking forward to him coming when his appointment was announced but since he has been here my attitude to him has changed completely and thats the only thing one can 'go off' one's own experience.
If clubs fall out because of differences amongst another clubs personell well it speaks volumes about that clubs standards, or do the words 'being professional' not count anymore.'"
''Being professional''.
It wouldn't be very professional of Wigan to send a young player to a club whose unprofessional coach was sacked from St Helens in such circumstances.
The simple fact of the matter is that Wigan have staff who have worked alongside Ian Millward and believe that his coaching/man management aren't in the best interests for their players as they have experienced it first hand.
There's no more depth to it. It's as simple as that.
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| Quote ="ABP'"''Being professional''.
It wouldn't be very professional of Wigan to send a young player to a club whose unprofessional coach was sacked from St Helens in such circumstances.'"
Although it could be said that why did Wigan employ him post-Saints?
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| Quote ="Leyther_till_death"I don't think anyone can defend Millward's stint at Wigan. He was in charge of them during their most recent darkest time, weather it was his fault or not, the players and people involved there at the time certainly didn't warm to him, obviously one being Radlinski who was experienced at the time, well respected in the game and who had worked with a lot of coaches. Now he's involved at Wigan around the youth area, he's hardly going to recommend their players to go and play under him. So going off that I can understand why Wigan won't send their youth players to us.
I'm sure Ben would like to play for his home town team rather than travel up to Barrow every other weekend but it's not his choice. We just have to work with what we've got instead of moaning about Wigan. What we have got is a good relationship with Warrington, who are producing the same calibre of players, so we're hardly losing out.'"
Well said.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Although it could be said that why did Wigan employ him post-Saints?
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Because of an even more unprofessional Maurice Lindsay and Dave Whelan.
....And look what happened.
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| Quote ="ABP'"Because of an even more unprofessional Maurice Lindsay and Dave Whelan.'"
Just chucking a spanner in the works Alex
I think it's better for the players concerned to get somewhat out of their comfort zone and play elsewhere anyway.
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| Quote ="ABP'"Because of an even more unprofessional Maurice Lindsay and Dave Whelan.
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If you want the definition of ' unproffessional ' , just type in Shaun Wane
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| Quote ="Starbug"If you want the definition of ' unproffessional ' , just type in Shaun Wane'"
You couldn't be any more wrong.
Oh go on then, i'll bite.
How?
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| Quote ="ABP'"You couldn't be any more wrong.
Oh go on then, i'll bite.
How?'"
Fortunatley Dean Bell was enough of a gentleman to apologise for his behaviour , he was thouroughly disgusted with mr Wane and his behaviour to representatives of the Leigh Centurions and also the amatuer clubs from Leigh
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| Quote ="Starbug"Fortunatley Dean Bell was enough of a gentleman to apologise for his behaviour , he was thouroughly disgusted with mr Wane and his behaviour to representatives of the Leigh Centurions and also the amatuer clubs from Leigh'"
What did he do that warranted an alleged apology from Dean Bell?
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| you are trying to defend a club which broke it's promise to another club at the last 'freindly' even the then Wigan ch exec was apologetic in his after game speech
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| Oh what now!
Go on, what promise?
Jesus, for a a club who apparently ''hate'' Wigan you don't half demand/expect our help...
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| it was a promise and an agreement that Wigan would send for three years their strongest possible side in a friendly
short memories in Wigan apparently as even their then ch exec refered to it
who says as a club we hate Wigan who says we demand or expect Wigans help? the agreement was brokered then broke as a mark of Wigan wanting more derby games (Wigans/ same ch exec words not mine) know your club Alex or shut up.
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| It was a promise he shouldn't have made as it is obviously against the coach's wishes.
A mistake. Oh well. It's not as though there was massive consequences.
Just one you'll have to get over, Fred.
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| We have got over it - we now have pre-season friendly and 'dual contract' ageement with the current TOP team in Sooper Dooper League.
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| It just proves the point, anyway it worked out great in the end we cemented an agreement with an honorable club (so far)Warrington so I'm way way over it.
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| Far better having a working relationship with the Wire than those Crust munching 4ckwits.
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| We should have no association with wigan other than how to market ourselves to our area.
if thats not possible,for what ever reason, then there is no need to mention the word wigan on this forum EVER AGAIN because It serves no purpose.
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| We like Wigan and often share a meat and potato pie.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"We like Wigan and often share a meat and potato pie.'"
There `s NO accounting for taste.
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| you won't next season when their trolls invade your site
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| i love a pie my self to be honest - especially those cooked in bolton or tyldesley - far better quality.
Wigan pies are better left alone theres so much crap assocciated with them.
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| Wanes stance is fantastic imho, we should hate each other there is far too much loving going on with our Humble scrotes up the road and He obviously feels the same.
Ban the luvvers from scouting our kids, kick lumps out of the scouts on the touchline, pee on em spit at em etc - bring back the good old days when we scrapped for fun, the kids miss out on that today. Well done Shaun I am with you 100% on this.
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| Quote ="FredParky"you won't next season when their trolls invade your site'"
Or if they can't handle the truth that ruins their little, insignificant chip-on-their-shoulder ramblings, Fred?
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| you will soon find out
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