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| Quote ="itsatry!"Quits right Alan ! but no matter what statement comes out of the club some will still choose to think the worst and because that is what they prefer to see .'"
This is what they will see mate;
Quote [size=150Leigh Centurions Announce Official Partnership With Wigan Warriors[/size'"
Very little else.
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| As I said we will see how it pans out, just wish the release Had come from the club before the newspapers story.
I just fans read it correctly and not listen to gossip , so we dont have more of a money problem in months to come.
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| Not buying all this "developing kids from the Borough b0110cks - All I can see is that Wigan are using our team in the Championship to develop their own youngsters. Again, I don't see what Leigh get out of it! Does PR not think that we have enough players of a suitable standard to fill our own team??
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| Quote ="Alan"I still believe we can't ignore what this is really about - the youngsters in the Borough. Recently, the RFL stopped funding Community coaches, because of the huge reduction in Sport England grants to the game. This is all about setting a pathway to ensure that all the kids who want to play the game are properly looked after and encouraged, right from junior level, to the top tiers of the game.
There ISN'T going to be a flood of recuperating SL players heading our way. Nor is there going to be a massive influx of D/C youngsters into our team. PR will ensure that. Does anybody seriously think that he is going to overlook contracted players, to whom we are paying money, in favour of somebody else's players? He is not bound to play these D/C's unless he wants them, Wigan are willing to release them, and the kids in question want to come to us. He will be well aware that any D/C's can only play in the play-offs, if they have been regulars during the Championship season - that's another 'rule' we have signed up to.
OK, so Wigan will probably get the pick of the youngsters, but that's no different to what's been happening for years. Many kids (& parents) will want them to go where the money is - but some may just think, "What if Wigan don't want me, after a couple of years?" Some of them (& their parents) may just see that those kids may get a better opportunity of first team rugby at Leigh - and then making progress.
Just to nail my colours to the mast - I am not in favour of D/C's/loans. I would rather use our contracted players, as I believe would PR. However, am I in favour of the youngsters in our Borough getting better opportunities to play RL than they currently do? You bet I am! They are the future of RL and we must do everything in our power to ensure that is just what they become.'"
Excellent post from someone who knows what is happening in RL
Nothing wrong in what Leigh are doing in fact it should be applauded in helping young RL players to move forward in the game when all said and done this will only profit both Wigan and Leigh people seem to forgot we are only a MINOR sport in this country and the game has been / is run by crackpots at RL headquarters .
A team like Wigan will always go for top class players and bring in from outside players already established in the game this will profit Leigh in getting hold of the odd outstanding young player in the past they would have had no chance of getting.. Leigh have at present in my opinion a great crop of young players coming through over the next few seasons and instead of so called fans threatening to boycott games ect ect the club should be getting our support more than ever
The guys on the first team squad are not full time and week in week out the lads put their body's on the line for this club so get behind the club and STOP being NEGATIVE.... We are LEYTHERS
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| DISGRACEFUL.
This is how I see it, Leigh will get the rubbish players Wigan don't want - so as fans you can pay up to £18.00 to watch average players learning there trade.
Wigan will always get the better ones and as soon as any show potential at Leigh they will (rightly) go to the parent club - that is black and white and I don't think anyone would disagree with how that will happen.
So if your becoming a partner / feeder / training club (call it what you want) then why not go the whole hog and actually play some of the quality first team players like Hunset and Swinton have done (and Leigh UNDOUBTABLY will do further down the line), stop being 'high and mighty' and pretending you are something you are not, either embrace the fact the club is now a reserve club to Wigan and acccept that it will now never enter SL or (like me) decide the club you have supported for years has now died.
I will say one thing though, the comments of Rowley, Freer and Barton in stating to fans that no partnership was planned to numerous fans forums whilst its evident they was in negotations shows the type of people they are, utter contempt for all of them.
Leigh RLFC died on 22nd March 2013
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| Quote ="Alan"
There ISN'T going to be a flood of recuperating SL players heading our way. Nor is there going to be a massive influx of D/C youngsters into our team. PR will ensure that. Does anybody seriously think that he is going to overlook contracted players, to whom we are paying money, in favour of somebody else's players? He is not bound to play these D/C's unless he wants them, Wigan are willing to release them, and the kids in question want to come to us. He will be well aware that any D/C's can only play in the play-offs, if they have been regulars during the Championship season - that's another 'rule' we have signed up to.
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I remember when it was announced that Widnes were dual registering all their squad to Workington the number of posts on various forums calling us Widnes reserves and Workington Vikings, etc, even though our coach said exactly what you are now saying PR will say or do.
Workington have not used any players from Widnes with loads of SL experience, in fact they have used a 19 yr old and a 20 yr old with no SL experience plus in one game they had a 21 yr old with 1 SL game experience and a 23 yr old with about 5 SL games experience. That never stopped certain posters still calling us Widnes Reserves so why should your team be any different? The play-offs rule is for every club whether the players are dual registered or loaned, they have to play in the requisite number of games to qualify.
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Quote ="Toadstool"The official version
www.leighcenturions.com/news/178
The key bits for me are
"4. =#FF0000All Players will be under the age of 23 on 31st August 2012."
"What the Partnership is not About
1. Removing the identity or credibility of either club.
2. A one sided approach to the allocation of Super League players within the championship environment
3. The De Registration of Contracted Players to enable competitive opportunities for designated players.
4. Providing a short term environment for =#FF0000returning Super League Players."
All in all I am happy with how it has turned out.'"
Wonder where they'll draw the line………
Josh Charnley. 71 app
Jack Hughes. 29 app
Liam Farrell. 86 app
Logan Tomkins. 10 app
Dom Crosby. 11app
None of the above? Where do they get fit if returning from injury or not selected by Wigan?
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Quote ="Toadstool"The official version
www.leighcenturions.com/news/178
The key bits for me are
"4. =#FF0000All Players will be under the age of 23 on 31st August 2012."
"What the Partnership is not About
1. Removing the identity or credibility of either club.
2. A one sided approach to the allocation of Super League players within the championship environment
3. The De Registration of Contracted Players to enable competitive opportunities for designated players.
4. Providing a short term environment for =#FF0000returning Super League Players."
All in all I am happy with how it has turned out.'"
Wonder where they'll draw the line………
Josh Charnley. 71 app
Jack Hughes. 29 app
Liam Farrell. 86 app
Logan Tomkins. 10 app
Dom Crosby. 11app
None of the above? Where do they get fit if returning from injury or not selected by Wigan?
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| As I posted on the other thread:
Quote ="leighonardo"I have always said for many years I would still follow Leigh RLFC in Rugby League's Division 20 if it ever occurred. When I said that phrase I never thought I would ever have to add in the word 'Independent' Leigh RLFC.
A Partnered /Twinned Leigh RLFC in the Championship - Never.'"
EDIT: Now an official Partnered / twinned / Leigh RLFC as per the official website announcement.
Simply unbelievable.
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| Anyone know if anyone has ever set up a new RL club starting out at the very bottom of the sport ?
I know similar things have been done in football when fans have formed a seperate club but has anything ever been attempted in RL at any level ?
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"As I said we will see how it pans out, just wish the release Had come from the club before the newspapers story.
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Perhaps someone leaked it , It's happened before
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| Quote ="JENKY"Anyone know if anyone has ever set up a new RL club starting out at the very bottom of the sport ?
I know similar things have been done in football when fans have formed a seperate club but has anything ever been attempted in RL at any level ?'"
Bramley??
Oh, btw, just sent you a PM
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| Why do we need an official Partnership at all?
Why can’t we, like we have always done simply loan someone if needed?
Why can’t we do what we have always done and be there to pick up the pieces when kids have been rejected by ‘better’ clubs. Kez looks really disappointed to be at Leigh. How hard would it be to simply make it known to all that if you don’t make the grade at SL club X, give Leigh a ring and you’ll at least be invited to have trials.
Most of the lads we sign from amateur would have already either had trails and been rejected or overlooked by SL clubs.
I'm not against change, but it should only be if its better, and I'm really struggling to see how this is better.
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| Quote ="JENKY"Anyone know if anyone has ever set up a new RL club starting out at the very bottom of the sport ?
I know similar things have been done in football when fans have formed a seperate club but has anything ever been attempted in RL at any level ?'"
In our heart of hearts we all know were this link up is going so its up to the fan base to decide what they want now.
So for now i'd say just sit back and see what happens,watch the miners and east and the u20s arent bad for a couple of quid
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| signed the letter then worked out a way round it so can have a foot in both camps?
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| Quote ="swifty62"signed the letter then worked out a way round it so can have a foot in both camps?'"
It certainly looks that way.
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| Quote ="swifty62"signed the letter then worked out a way round it so can have a foot in both camps?'"
Its what happens when your run by an ex copper and a solicitor
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| Wigan & surrounding district RLFC increase their chances of actually winning silverware in 2013 by buddying up with Leigh. But only very slightly.....
Sorry, but as a traditionalist & Fax fan, you've sold your souls to the next door neighbours, if Fax did this with Bradford or Huddersfield i'd be gone before the ink on the paper was dry.
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| I really do think I have just lost the will to live.
I really need to digest the news and my immediate thought was to wonder what the people who formed this once great club will actually be thinking tonight, people who carried it's strong proud traditions great men such as Jack Hilton, Jack Harding who led this team out at Wembley, the clubs crest on his blazer and brimming with pride in front of 100,000 people.
I am in shock, I am now going out to buy a couple bottles of scotch and to be alone for a while with my thoughts.
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| I've been alone with my thoughts since lunchtime and have just cancelled by TD silver membership as I refuse to pay for Wigan A team's salaries. I'll return my season ticket to the club in the morning. 45 years of supporting Leigh and it's come to this. Gutted!
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"I really do think I have just lost the will to live.
I really need to digest the news and my immediate thought was to wonder what the people who formed this once great club will actually be thinking tonight, people who carried it's strong proud traditions great men such as Jack Hilton, Jack Harding who led this team out at Wembley, the clubs crest on his blazer and brimming with pride in front of 100,000 people.
I am in shock,=#FF0000 I am now going out to buy a couple bottles of scotch and to be alone for a while with my thoughts.'"
I've just said the same to my Mrs.
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| Quote ="glow"Wonder where they'll draw the line………
Josh Charnley. 71 app
Jack Hughes. 29 app
Liam Farrell. 86 app
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None of the above? Where do they get fit if returning from injury or not selected by Wigan?'"
A couple of points there glow - there are players on your list that Wigan wouldn't let us near, and there are others who we wouldn't want. The agreement clearly states the age/experience (inexperience) of the players who would be used.
How many Wigan players did we use last night?
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| Quote ="j.c"In our heart of hearts we all know were this link up is going so its up to the fan base to decide what they want now.
So for now i'd say just sit back and see what happens,watch the miners and east and =#FF0000the u20s arent bad for a couple of quid'"
Three Wigan Players in the U 20's!
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| Quote ="Alan"Three Wigan Players in the U 20's!'"
I thought there was more.
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| Quote ="Alan"A couple of points there glow - there are players on your list that Wigan wouldn't let us near, and there are others who we wouldn't want. The agreement clearly states the age/experience (inexperience) of the players who would be used.
How many Wigan players did we use last night?'"
I only used those as examples, but I think all those are U23, what do we (they) class as experience? 5yrs, 2yrs, 50 games, 20 games, 10 games, 0 games.
Yesterday people were saying the Wigan players would not be playing first team rugby for us, the statement clearly states they could be.
I'm really struggling to understand the benefits of all this.
I do however know the answer to your last question, (Unless it was a trick one and you mean former players)
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| Strange that Barrow pulled out of talks with Wigan due to their demands so what changed so much that made Leigh want to jump in to bed with them.
Maybe a last ditch attempt to cling on to the coat tails of Fev, Sheffield and Fax?
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