Extract from RL Operational Rules on NL Salary Cap:-

7.3 Costs for those players under 21 who are eligible to play in the academy teams are to be excluded from the Salary Cap Costs. For the avoidance of doubt this means players need to be under 21 years of age on August 31st 2008. However there is no credit granted against Salary Cap cost for U21 players loaned out to other clubs see 6.4.2
above.

I thought crowds would have increased significantly when Martyn signed. It was talked about for a few years that he may sign, and for us a dream signing when it finally happened. Crowds did not show that in 2004 - crowds very poor for league games and considering we was doing well.

Thanks for the clarification , so how about if you have invested in a young player through his playing carreer and he gets into the first team he becomes exempt from the salary cap regardless of age. Of course if he chooses to move on, the team who takes him will have to adhere to the cap. You are then rewarded for investing in youth and you can then afford to pay a few players to come in and play for you?

Jesus stop being so pc do you honestly think that he meant to upset everyone who has been sexually attacked when he made that comment!!!
Raped in the dictionary means other terminology as well ..... c`mon Fred every person on here could misread and interpret comments as differant..the subject is about Leigh RL nothing else

Back in 2003 I told one of my employees that we would be signing Tommy , He had not watched Leigh for years , " you sign T. Martyn and I'll come watching them " was his reply

We did , he didn't

There you go, a genuine modern time RL/SL legend coming home and he was proud to wear the Leigh shirt to.
You can't get any bigger signing than that and the proof is there in the stats - successful team with Tommy God and crowds actually went down in league games. Unyet we should learn from history by doing it again - overspending on what we can afford in the desparate hope crowds will increase significantly.

Me personally? I have done a fair bit over a few years I was the main sponsor for both acadamy teams that we were runing at the time I have also sponsored individuals eg Penky when he came through our youth system .If your refering to our club we have brought plenty through and at the moment we have Penky and Haley who have come through our acadamy system.But that was not the point I was making.
My comments were not directed at any clubs they were directed at the R.F.L. who should be rewarding clubs like yours who have and continue to provide good players to the rugby community .iYour club should be then rewarded by players you have brought through not counting on the salary cap when they play for you.

You're getting us confused with somebody else

Leigh dont have a youth policy , Mr Lewis said so on live TV

Errr Frank I did write this AFTER the contract offer to the Aussie, like I said if anyone doesn't believe me then ask, I did.

I have recieved a communication from a very good source (not connected to Leigh Centurions in any way) who has contacted me after reading the crap posted on this board about Loan players agents and Leigh Centurions.
He tells me he has contacted three of the most active agents in the area and none of them have any problem at all in working with Leigh Centurions, I don't know who is feeding folk all this tripe but its obviously someone with either a big grudge or a big chip on their shoulder, for its all lies and repeating it with out the required proof can be both dangerous and damaging to both club and agents, so my advice -get your facts right and dont post such drivel, like I said I believe my source to the letter for he has nothing at all to gain or lose by telling me what he did, but I suppose again the truth isnt exciting as rumour and lies

Brilliant so the source says there are no problems????
Then we must be the worst advertised and promoted club in the world if we cant attract loanees or signings with a new stadium and unlike some clubs a bit of history???
We have real problems then if your sources are to be believed Fred and am sure they are ....

should start going around the other towns like St.Helens, Warrington and Widnes and see what they do. They are local and can be driven to easily so there's no excuse.

Anyway this is all my own opinion before you all come down on me like south stand of HP.

Now just point out where I said there were no problems ? or are you just someone else who reads only what they want to? I would suggest you read it again properly this time



And again KURT HAGGERTY is a loanee from StHelens or has he been conveniently forgotten about?

Believe what you want I just provide relaible information from relaible sources, not rumours and lies.

But you have to ask why is he the only one or has NK just decided that we have one loanee now we dont need anymore.

Kelly also went on record last year as saying he doesn't like loan signings so?

I think Stanton is a signed player Keith.

What is the obsession with borrowing players from other clubs???

Don't people feel that we would be open to ridicule and derision if we achieved anything with a team full of loanees! Lets concentrate on getting our own players into shape and up to speed with a decent game plan than shipping players in for a month here and a month there!

No promotion for 3 years......a time to build our own squad and drip feed the our youth products over a period of time

So do we develop our own kids or do we fetch in someone elses for a year then send them back to SL?

No brainer for me.

Didnt say you said there were problems fred...am saying that we cant seem to sign players without it turning into a circus...the rugby league press tell you our leaders are not RLs favourate sons....

As for sticking with youth yeah am all for it BUT if that means we slide rapidly down hill then its a concern...
Dont forget we have to make a final in the next 3 years or else all the young players we nurture will then be given(other clubs call it selling) to super league clubs(we have a very good record at that!?!?!)

OR are we saying thats it for us no SL ambitions ??? we are treading a very high tightrope damned if we do damned if we dont??? BUT one things for sure at this present moment i think the club is rudderless and AT needs people in place with cash monies and ideas on how to move forward now we have our new sy stadium (super league clubs are jealous according to stevo in the express)





SHOULD HAVE LET US IN THEN STEVO!!!!!!!! brewery field!!!

Next 2 years, no finals in year 3 (2011) before the franchise decision, very very cute of the RFL. In all seriousness it was coincidental that Celtic and Salford made the GF in 2008, because that would have actually counted as year 1,chance 1 to qualify to apply for SL in 2011.....I think

Not only do you misquote my source you misquote yourself.

Please point me to where 'The RL press etc...' is quoted?

I care not for politics in RL or in Leigh Centurions just facts and nothing it seems is that, just rumours and innuendos which are worth absolutely nothing and do nothing for the club both in the eyes of the RFL or its own gullible supporters some who believe everything that appears on here instead of getting off their backsides and asking the right people.

Fred you really are Leigh rl`s dream !!! there are other press out there ...
we are a poorly commercialised club always have been always will be we dont attract players and when we do they are usually journeymen who cost us a fortune for very little in return...You do a great job for the club fred BUT you dont have to believe everything they drip feed you...
We cant/dont attract players fact!! (as Rafa says)

Not believing anything the club say read my post again, not too hard that is it? still awaiting the link to your press report.

pi$$ or get off the pot.

I'll help you out 'thudder' can't see anything there connecting the source to Leigh he even puts that it isn't, he's also right in that you misquote him.

Maybe you 'thudder gone to specsavers' thudder

Ok then, lets look at it another way.

For those who are moaning about it.......who would you sign on loan and why?

If he'd leave Harlequins, Mick Nannyn, proven points scorer in this environment, and we do need a centre urgently (and a 6 if the visa doesn't come through fast)

Thornley (Ian?) from Wigan, Davies, and Mossop from Wigan, thats the five we would be allowed (we already have Haggy on a loan contract)-the good thing about loanees from Wigan (Im informed - again not from our club or should I say [size=150NOT FROM OUR CLUB[/size for those who appear to have selective dyslexia with my posts) is that Wigan pay their wages but they get any bonuses from the loanee club, but they have to be played in the first team.
If we couldnt get any one/two of the above then Flanagan or Farrell from Wigan.
They have a number of first team forwards coming back from injury further pushing these youngsters out.
All are bursting a gut to get first team football, Wigan want them at a local club to monitor their training and the lads themselves don't want to travel far.

Not a great fan of loanees myself, well not short term ones unless its to cover for injuries, as it can disrupt the borrowers side, but if needs must.